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March 10, 2004 WHAT DID TENET SAY?....This is a little inside-baseballish,
but yesterday's coverage of CIA Director George Tenet's congressional
testimony struck me as an unusually interesting example of editorial
judgment. Tenet's testimony was pretty varied, which meant that
reporters had a lot of different options for their leads. And it turns
out they all picked different things:
OK, that last one was just for giggles. But it's pretty remarkable that the news judgment of the five national dailies about which part of Tenet's testimony was most important was almost completely different. At least we didn't get any pack journalism on this story. (I'd include the Wall Street Journal in this too, but I don't subscribe so I don't know how they played it.) Posted by Kevin Drum at March 10, 2004 09:05 AM | TrackBackComments
Lord. WaPo and NYT couldn't really be further apart could they? Old Hat Daily Tribune: Tenet, Cheney Both Lying Weasles Posted by: Old Hat at March 10, 2004 09:14 AM | PERMALINKI think perle's "heads should roll" statement might have been the last straw in the eyes of tenet. He sure did not look like he was going to go out of his way to protect this admin yesterday... ...gloves coming off? Atlanta Journal-Constitution: "CIA chief defends Bush case for war" Posted by: Jeff Boatright at March 10, 2004 09:18 AM | PERMALINKWSJ took the NYT line: Tenet privately warned admin officials when their public statements went over the line. I guess the view from Manhattan is pretty much the same no matter if you're in midtown or downtown. Posted by: Dan Perreten at March 10, 2004 09:20 AM | PERMALINKSJ Murky News: Tenet says Cheney statements about Iraq WMD intelligence were wrong. Paraphrase: early in testimony Tenet appeared to support the administration, but then began to contradict it. Tiny article at bottom of front page below several articles about fat children and same sex marriages. Posted by: Moniker at March 10, 2004 09:26 AM | PERMALINKBBC is the same as WashPost: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&edition=us&num=30&newsclusterurl=http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1063308.htm Posted by: goethean at March 10, 2004 09:30 AM | PERMALINKAm I the only one to have compared it to what he said at Georgetown? Posted by: Frank at March 10, 2004 09:31 AM | PERMALINKChicago Tribune (AP Story): Chicago Tribune (New York Times News Service): "A special Pentagon intelligence unit briefed the White House directly without the knowledge of the CIA." Pretty much says all that need be said about the CIA and its
"intelligence failures" doesn't it? The don't even know what's going on
in Washington, much less the Middle East. AP: CIA's Tenet Defends White House on Iraq. (See above, for Chicago Tribune and Atlanta J-C.) Seems like the general press is picking up the AP whitewash, as usual. Posted by: jylfyl at March 10, 2004 09:43 AM | PERMALINKboston globe just used the wapo story. how can tenet stand these backstabbers? I listened to some of the testimony on "The World" (public radio news by BBC and PRI, IIRC). In the testimony it sounded like Tenet was largely defending the administration. But the line about how policy makers use language differently than intelligence gatherers seemed like a bit of bait to me. Kennedy sure sounded furious. He kept asking sharp questions and then Tenet would start to answer in waffley tones and Kennedy would interrupt him with even sharper questions. Posted by: Emma Anne at March 10, 2004 10:17 AM | PERMALINKChicago Tribune Print Edition (Chicago area Final) Large headline: Tenet Answers Senate Critics Story is from NYT news service. This is a little different what was posted before It would be wonderfully refreshing if all these news outlets provided their readers with an actual transcript, wouldn't it? What would it take...a news staffer spending a few hours with a video tape? Of course, then their readers could decide for themselves what was important, and we can't have that. I remember the Kay hearing. There never was a transcript, even on the Committees' website. I think I saw an excerpt of Kay's introductory remarks somewhere else. But I watched the hearing, and I could see what the press was picking out and what it was ignoring. BTW, has anyone noticed that Kennedy is turning into a nutcase? Posted by: tbrosz at March 10, 2004 11:11 AM | PERMALINKBTW, has anyone noticed that Kennedy is turning into a nutcase? Nice try, tbrosz. I saw his speech to the Council on Foreign Relations last week and he was absolutely spot-on sane -- though outraged. It was as excellent a summary of the lies and exaggerations as any blogger has done. The speech is online at the CFR site, I think; sorry, no time to search for link right now. Posted by: Nell Lancaster at March 10, 2004 11:20 AM | PERMALINKCalpundit, you only thought you were joking. Check out Fox News's take. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113678,00.html Headline: "Tenet: 'Spectacular Attack' Main Goal of Terrorists." Be afraid! After thirteen paragraphs of fear-mongering and praise for Bush's handling of the War on Terror, it mentions the questions Tenet was asked about Iraq intelligence. But the article strongly implies that all questions were mere partisan attacks by liberal Democrats. Posted by: Michael Waddell at March 10, 2004 11:37 AM | PERMALINKMark one up for Rove and co.This is exactly what they wanted to happen.I bet he even wrote what Tenant was going to say. What does this say about the state of the media?I would say: Can we get a little more confused about just what the hell is going on in Washington!!?? Posted by: smalfish at March 10, 2004 11:48 AM | PERMALINKI read in the USA today about Tenet's testimony. It was very
mysterious, in that he seemed to be claiming that the administration did
not misrepresent intelligence regarding WMD then also admitting that
they were wrong to make many of their claims. If I were present, I
might be tempted to inquire of Tenet why he thought the claims were made
in spite of statements that he made more or less directly to the White
House. This seems like a very natural question to ask. Mr. Kennedy asked Mr. Tenet if he believed the administration had misrepresented information about Iraq to justify war, to which Mr. Tenet responded, "No, sir, I don't." Mr. Tenet said the relationship between Saddam and al Qaeda included "contacts, training and safe haven," as well as help for al Qaeda collaborator Abu Musaab Zarqawi, his role in the assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan and operations in Baghdad. Posted by: The Lonewacko Blog at March 10, 2004 12:00 PM | PERMALINKlonewacko Mr. Tenet's claim about Saddam- Al Quaeda is interesting. However, we have no way of knowing whether or not it is the truth. Posted by: Roland at March 10, 2004 12:17 PM | PERMALINKI was only able to watch a small portion of the hearing, but I had to chuckle at the part I did watch. I don't remember who the questioner was (midwestern R, I think), but asked Tenet if he personally briefed Baby Bush daily, and Tenet made clear that he and a briefer did in fact give Baby Bush a briefing daily. Then he was asked if he had done the same for Clinton, and replied that, paraphrasing a little, "Clinton was a Reader. He would read the briefings daily and write questions on the brief and send it back." I just started laughing. I'm sure Baby Bush likes his briefings short, animated and not too detailed. Baby Bush's style is exactly like a CEO - Ken Lay. Posted by: Rick at March 10, 2004 12:21 PM | PERMALINKIf y'all remember it was the CIA who filed on the Plame matter, looks like they're not finished, eh? Pissed off CIA, now there's a problem, that shit will give you pancreatics, fer crissakes! Posted by: perpwalk at March 10, 2004 01:28 PM | PERMALINK Having straightened out the White House about Niger in October of 2002, why would Tenet think they'd sneak the same bullshit back into speaches three months later? Having straightened out the Brits in September, 2002, why would Tenet think the White House would be citing old, faulty Brit intel four months later? If Tenet's guilty of anything, it's overestimating the character of these guys. He's basically taken responsibility for not following George around with a pooper-scooper. Posted by: Visualize Dead Thugs at March 10, 2004 01:44 PM | PERMALINK George Tenet says he does not believe the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence on Iraq I mean, the WH went around the CIA to get scary stories from amateurs and conmen. Who's guilty? Those who conconted them, or those who sought out those who would concoct? Posted by: Visualize Dead Thugs at March 10, 2004 01:49 PM | PERMALINKHey,
Yes, I know this sounds conspiracy-theoryish, but it's the only way I could make sense out of Tenet's statement. Is there any other possible explanation for Tenet's waffly statement. Oh my gosh, 'waffly'...he's been talking to Kerry. :-) Posted by: MarkH at March 10, 2004 02:21 PM | PERMALINKyep, it's even in my original post Posted by: Visualize Dead Thugs at March 10, 2004 02:24 PM | PERMALINKLmfao dude, thanks. You guys are an endless supply of political humor. Thanks again, heh. Posted by: perpwalk at March 10, 2004 02:24 PM | PERMALINK Oh my gosh, 'waffly'...he's been talking to Kerry. :-) Or maybe this guy: Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it. "yep, it's even in my original post" Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Sorry, dude, I thoght someone was capping on your spelling, so I had your back. Don't pay much attenshun to names, I guess. 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