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March 05, 2004

NAVEL GAZING....Are blogs influencing the outside world? Absolutely. The Guardian reports today that its most popular story of the past week was loaded ten times as much as its #2 story. Blogs accounted for the difference:

The page loaded 456,671 times was a story, originally published by the Observer, about a secret Pentagon report which warned the Bush administration that global warming could destroy the American way of life as they knew it.

....Every liberal with a weblog linked to the story, and when a story is trawled by the blogs traffic goes up; exponentially. Jane Perrone, Guardian Unlimited's weblog editor explains. "The key to a story's popularity amongst bloggers is if it's picked up by one of the dozen or so big hitters. These celebrity bloggers include Glenn Reynolds, Joshua Micah Marshall and Doc Searls. A lot of bloggers will take their lead from these names, or from aggregators like Popdex and Blogdex."

But what about me? I linked to that story, not those other guys.

Sigh. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Perhaps James Joyner inadvertantly provides the explanation by pointing to a study that claims that lots of bloggers get their ideas from other blogs without attributing them. Bastards. I immediately went to the Blog Epidemic Analyzer and typed in my URL, and sure enough, people are stealing my ideas! Between May 1-21 of 2003, Calpundit was referenced 96 times explicitly and 67 times implicitly — i.e., without attribution. Clearly, something must be done.

Suitable punishments should be submitted in comments.

Posted by Kevin Drum at March 5, 2004 03:06 PM | TrackBack


Comments

Kevin,

You need to watermark your blogs :-)

Posted by: Ted at March 5, 2004 03:11 PM | PERMALINK

It's punishment for the censorship of cat blogging!

Posted by: Ryan at March 5, 2004 03:12 PM | PERMALINK

Floggings?

Posted by: TonyB at March 5, 2004 03:12 PM | PERMALINK

First off,
I'm innocent!
My blog, which is still in it's infancy, will remain unchecked due to my deeply ingrained fear that I will be the laughing stock of the net if it were revealed to the whole world.
Secondly, plagerism...ahem, is the highest form of flattery.
::::showing himself to the door::::

Posted by: sheerahkahn at March 5, 2004 03:12 PM | PERMALINK

Make 'em spend a weekend with Al or Charlie!!!

Posted by: Keith G at March 5, 2004 03:15 PM | PERMALINK

Perhaps Kevin should advertise on blogs that use him without attribution, telling readers to come to Calpundit for the real thing.

It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if this blog doesn't actually generate revenue, of course.

Posted by: bad Jim at March 5, 2004 03:18 PM | PERMALINK

The only punishment I can think of is a not insignificant dose of humility for Calpundit. I think he could use it.

Posted by: A fan at March 5, 2004 03:19 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, you're just not getting the credit you deserve. I think it's coming though. When I first hit the blogs, I was mainly hanging around Atrios, Daily Kos, and Agonist (with some Counterpin thrown in). That was around war time.

Then, I wasn't too impressed with the blog over here.

It's funny how, as time goes by, trends can change. Personally, I think your blog is overall one of the best, and one of only a handful I visit regularly.

Does that mean I love everything you say?

No.

But you spotlight a lot of the right things, and the thread discussions here at CalPundit are light years ahead of what you find elsewhere.

Keep up the good work. This is definitely one of the best blogs around.

Posted by: jimm at March 5, 2004 03:19 PM | PERMALINK

And consider the plagiarism as flattery and proof of viability.

Posted by: jimm at March 5, 2004 03:20 PM | PERMALINK

Not that Kevin actually has to drum up business, of course.

Posted by: bad Jim at March 5, 2004 03:20 PM | PERMALINK

On a more serious note, Lately I have noticed links and sometimes just references to you in a variety of blogs. I found out about calpundit thanks to a link in Slate a year ago.

"Patience young Luke, soon you will feel the force...."

Posted by: Keith G at March 5, 2004 03:20 PM | PERMALINK

As goez the cats, so goez CalPundit...

Posted by: Peter at March 5, 2004 03:23 PM | PERMALINK

....Every liberal with a weblog linked to the story, and when a story is trawled by the blogs traffic goes up; exponentially.

Very few, if any, websites could handle an exponential increase in traffic. (Unless it was very short lived). Sigh. Nobody understand the true scope of the word exponential.

As for what you can do about theft of your ideas, I say start sending out 'Cease-and-Desist' letters to the offenders. Next, get a jacket with 'BIAA' (Blogging Industry Assoc. of America), and start showing up at server rooms and collocation points, demanding servers be turned over to you. Hell, it worked for the RIAA -- just declare yourself a part of the executive branch, and live large of the proceeds from confiscated property. :-)

Posted by: Timothy Klein at March 5, 2004 03:28 PM | PERMALINK

You go Kevin.I wouldnt know what a blog is if it were'nt for you.
On a side note how long has blogging(?) been around?

Posted by: smalfish at March 5, 2004 03:32 PM | PERMALINK

"Sigh. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride."

Hey, Kevin, I'd be glad to, err, uh.....nevermind.

Posted by: Keanu Reeves (no, really) at March 5, 2004 03:33 PM | PERMALINK

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rook at March 5, 2004 03:34 PM | PERMALINK

Sigh. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

I feel your pain. Heck, I usually don't even get invited to the wedding...

Posted by: NTodd at March 5, 2004 03:35 PM | PERMALINK

Oh, and the Kevin doesn't need to drum up business pun was just plain bad. Ok?

Posted by: Rook at March 5, 2004 03:36 PM | PERMALINK

Absolutely, blogs are the best! I have leanred much from the gloggers here, such as why it would be indefensible to vote for John Forbes Kerry. I think you gotta go nader, or Bush.

Here's what I see as bloggers main problems with Kerry:

"President Kerry. Please, spare us."

"He's going to turn out to be just like George Bush."

"John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington."

"It appears that his word is no good."

"I'm just incensed by his hypocrisy."

"This is not the person we need to head the Democratic Party. I think Senator Kerry is clearly not the person to carry the banner of the Democratic Party because he has acted so much like a Republican."

"Senator Kerry apparently supports the kind of corrupt fund raising, politically corrupt fund-raising mechanisms that George Bush has also employed."

"We are not going to beat George Bush by nominating someone who is the handmaiden of special interests."

"A special-interest clone."

"A candidate of no principle."

Bloggers unit, Nader!

Posted by: kesier at March 5, 2004 03:40 PM | PERMALINK

Yes, I also didn't understand why you didn't get a Koufax award.

Also, the influence of this blog is felt by other blogs. I remember a joking entry by Tacitus, saying that most of his liberal audience, and a significant increase in readership, was when you would mention and link to him. He made some funny comment about it, but I don't remember it...

Posted by: JC at March 5, 2004 03:41 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, why should you get credit for making a link? The person breaking the story is the only one that deserves any real credit. Why should another blogger have to say, "I heard on instapundit, who heard on calpundit, who heard on the drudge report that the Guardian wrote a fascinating article on Global Warming and the Bush administration." Bloggers don't typically make news or even break news, they just spread the news.

With that being said, you have certainly been branching out of late and trying to do more real journalism with interviews and such, and you should be commended for that.

-Brad

Posted by: brad at March 5, 2004 03:45 PM | PERMALINK

Just in case it wasn't absolutely clear, I was kidding. Calpundit has been in the top ten of the Blogosphere Ecosystem for over a year now, which is far better than I ever expected. I have absolutely no complaints about being noticed.

It was just a bit of Friday afternoon humor.

Posted by: Kevin Drum at March 5, 2004 03:47 PM | PERMALINK

The Blogger's blog

Posted by: ann at March 5, 2004 03:49 PM | PERMALINK

Here's a good link for bloggers who want to understasnd the underhanded nature of the Kerry/Heinz team.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/s_169770.html
Gives you a good idea about what Nader and Bush will be up against with this criminal enterprise behind Kerry.

Posted by: kesier at March 5, 2004 03:50 PM | PERMALINK

Cheer up, Kevin. The Austin Chronicle knows who you are.

Oh, and in keeping with the attribution memo, I got that link from Carl Zimmer at The Loom.

Posted by: Linkmeister at March 5, 2004 03:54 PM | PERMALINK

sheerahkahn, if you put your blog's link into your comments instead of your mailing address it might make it out of swaddling clothes more quickly. :)

Posted by: Linkmeister at March 5, 2004 03:56 PM | PERMALINK

No turkee for them, preznit!

Posted by: Jimmy Jazz at March 5, 2004 04:02 PM | PERMALINK

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PAY ATTENTION TO ME !
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Posted by: keiser_is_really_five at March 5, 2004 04:04 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin --

When I'm doing links, I try to make sure they're attributed by, at the very least, linking to you. (That way you know about it, it shows up in your trackbacks.)

My fellow bloggers (and my good friends) at the NFZ have different ideas about attribution, but they all seem to do so in some form or another.

And I really enjoy your blog, and you made my day when you commented on one of my entries at mine, and I never did say thank you properly. (I was in shock -- it was "Calpundit commented on my blog!") :)

-kat

Posted by: katster at March 5, 2004 04:08 PM | PERMALINK

Just one question. Who is Doc Searls?

Posted by: soup at March 5, 2004 04:10 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin have you been paying attention to what Howard Stern is doing?Easter lemming is.

Here

Posted by: smalfish at March 5, 2004 04:11 PM | PERMALINK

First Friday post-cat-blogging.

I don't like it.

Kevin, please bring back the cats!!

:)

Posted by: DCAl at March 5, 2004 04:13 PM | PERMALINK

Kesier, you are a fucking idiot. When you can quote something from a real publication, as opposed to a right-wing circle jerk, get back to us. I bet you can find cool sounding stuff on Drudge, too.

The article was laughable. It's pretty much OH MY GOD! They fund ENVIRONMENTAL EXTREMISM! They're a secret cabal that sacrifices babies and forces nuns to become lesbians! HIDE YOUR CHILDREN! LIBERALS EXIST! When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!

Posted by: Gaska at March 5, 2004 04:13 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, Kevin, if they didn't understand that you were doing a fake rant, let them wallow in their lack of light-homouredness (that a word?). Personally, I believe a suitable punishment would be a blogopublic censorship of the offending blogs, letting them know that "To steal from a college textbook is research; to steal from Calpundit is plagiarism".

Posted by: Coriolanus at March 5, 2004 04:14 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, relax.

I think you're a little on edge because, um, you've got no cybercats around to mellow you out.

Plus, look at the text:

"These celebrity bloggers include"

That suggests the following list includes some--but not all--of the celebrities. It would have been worse if they named you buy name. Because then you wouldn't be cool anymore. As it us, just us cool kids know about you.

And a gazillion other people who know how to work links.

Posted by: emptywheel at March 5, 2004 04:14 PM | PERMALINK

Have a special blogroll for them -- Sincere Flatterers. or Derivative Resources :)

Heck. Even I, with a week-old blog have seen my ideas echoed elsewhere a day or two later -- and it just *has* to be coincidence.

Scorpio
http://scorpio.typepad.com/eccentricity

Posted by: Scorpio at March 5, 2004 04:15 PM | PERMALINK

Punishment -- forced to peddle Calpundit gear on their site.

Posted by: dmbeaster at March 5, 2004 04:16 PM | PERMALINK

Speaking of influential blogs,
I went over to Andrew Sullivan's (i know, i know...)
to see if he had a mea culpa after Krugman's column on SS today, and what did i find????

THIS !

THANK GOD FOR KRAUTHAMMER: Charles Krauthammer has never written a dumb column, to my knowledge. Even on emotional subjects such as civil marriage, he brings to the debate a calm reasoning that wins the respect of his opponents as well as his supporters.


jeez, what a nutter (as if i had any doubts before...)

Posted by: tecla at March 5, 2004 04:17 PM | PERMALINK

I suggest a blue taffeta dress, with a baby's breath and calla lily bouquet.

Posted by: Charles K at March 5, 2004 04:19 PM | PERMALINK

You should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and force them all to be Christians.

Posted by: dick tuck at March 5, 2004 04:21 PM | PERMALINK

Hey, check out that link Kesier posted - it's really, really funny!

"What makes the pairing with Tides troubling is that organization's secretive funneling of cash from private foundations... to extreme left-wing activist groups whose interests include... anti-war protests, opposition to free trade, banning of firearms, abolition of the death penalty, unlimited abortion rights, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender advocacy, as well as and environmental extremism."

Well I thought that was hilarious. Imagine, the extreme left-wingism of being against the death penalty or protesting against war!

Geez, what a nutbar.

Posted by: mike at March 5, 2004 04:24 PM | PERMALINK

The good bloggers attribute. As for the rest, ignore them. I found you through Marshall, who gave you several good plugs on the AWOL story. I've noticed you also attribute. You have a classy operation, and I especially enjoy your willingness to admit you don't have all the answers -- so rare in either journalism or politics.
Yours,
Michael

Posted by: Mike Lefkowitz at March 5, 2004 04:24 PM | PERMALINK

Kev (If I may be so bold),

To me you are next to Josh Marshall on my must read blogs each day. I like yours better because I can comment. But, Josh is paid, you are not. Therefore, to me you represent the best in blogging IMHO, you do it just because you think it's right. You are a Thomas Paine of the 21st century.

Posted by: Babba at March 5, 2004 04:33 PM | PERMALINK

"Suitable punishments should be submitted in comments."

Constitutional Amendment?

Posted by: Charlie at March 5, 2004 04:33 PM | PERMALINK

I agree Kevin No need to worry I too found you but thru Cjr campaign desk.I think that may be a very good sign.Its not who copys you but who mentions you.

Posted by: smalfish at March 5, 2004 04:45 PM | PERMALINK

What a shame the story was complete and utter crap.

This demonstrates that bloggers are

a) credulous

b) ignorant

c) partisan and

d) incapable of fact-checking.

Posted by: a at March 5, 2004 04:46 PM | PERMALINK

If Josh (if I may be so bold) happened to read this I would hope that he would not take offense. I admire Josh for saying things the mainstresm press won't touch with a 10' pole. But Mr. Drum, have no fear of you're reputation. You have the Democratic donkey tatooed on your forehead, and none of us have any doubt of that. Plus, and more importantly, you speak of what needs to be spoken of. And we can't have enough of that.

Posted by: Babba at March 5, 2004 04:50 PM | PERMALINK

In response to Keiser's little non-sense article, a little counter-article of my own.

Click Here

scroll down to "Swimming Against the Tides" paragraph.

Posted by: ch2 at March 5, 2004 04:54 PM | PERMALINK

To me you are next to Josh Marshall on my must read blogs each day
I have to second this (or third it, rather). TPM was the only blog I was reading daily (or at all for the most part). Once he started linking to you, I added you to the list. Thanks for the good work!

Posted by: Suzanne at March 5, 2004 05:08 PM | PERMALINK

Well, I found this site via Glenn Reynolds (whose politics are a lot closer to mine than Kevin's are), and I've been reading it for some months and have no intention of stopping. Though I do miss the cats.

Posted by: Michelle Dulak at March 5, 2004 05:09 PM | PERMALINK

I get no love....

www.removebush.com/blog.htm

Not a "true" blog in the sense of the word but I do have original and unique stuff.

Posted by: wade at March 5, 2004 05:11 PM | PERMALINK

ch2 the article says"home state of New Jersey -- maligned by some as the "armpit of America" because of its heavy industry --"

JUst hog wash!Everyone knows that Houston is the Armpit of America.Because of ITs heavy industry and smog related programs/activities.

Posted by: smalfish at March 5, 2004 05:12 PM | PERMALINK

I'm the "TMP reader JS" that Josh Marshal thanked today for pointing out Treasury Secretary John Snow's comments last June about staking his reputation on job growth by Christmas.

This has improved my masturbatory sex life tremendously!

However, I don't yet have the courage, even after several brandy-and-apple-juices, to inform my real-life sex partner about this triumph in the blogosphere. I know to do so would mean about 14 incredibly difficult questions and total alienation the entire weekend.

Posted by: js7a at March 5, 2004 05:14 PM | PERMALINK

I think you should demand a shrubbery.

Posted by: John Isbell at March 5, 2004 05:41 PM | PERMALINK

Who's Doc Searles? Would I like him?

Posted by: RWC at March 5, 2004 05:44 PM | PERMALINK

Good job, js7a.

Someone needs to remember all the silly assurances we were give: "we know what we are doing, don't second-guess us, we have data you don't, we're certain, they have WMDs, there will be more jobs, you can call me on it". These past three years were witness to a continous series of conjobs.

Posted by: ch2 at March 5, 2004 05:45 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, relax.

I think you're a little on edge because, um, you've got no cybercats around to mellow you out.

Here, have my sarcasm detector.

Posted by: Irrational Bush Hatred at March 5, 2004 05:47 PM | PERMALINK

I would just like to confirm that, by attribution, you mean something along the lines of "I found something interesting over at Calpundit today", or "Thanks to Calpundit for showing us the way to this article", when linking to one of your posts etc. at another website. I freely admit that sort of thing when I do it, or at least I try to as much as possible...

Posted by: (: Tom :) at March 5, 2004 05:53 PM | PERMALINK

Suitable punishment: dial-up connection.

Posted by: dix at March 5, 2004 05:55 PM | PERMALINK

"Suitable punishment: dial-up connection."

Now that's cold, speaking from the depths of my 45333bps speed on this try.

Posted by: Linkmeister at March 5, 2004 06:16 PM | PERMALINK

There are constantly new bloggers becoming active, maybe it's time to run a "Blogging Etiquitte" bit?

Posted by: sal at March 5, 2004 07:22 PM | PERMALINK

OT
LinkMiester,

Methinks your name is in slight conflict with your 45333bps speed on this try.

I wonder if Keister has ever heard of Richard Mellon Scaife? Maybe it's something in the water in Pittsburgh that develops these shadowy billionaires with their evil plans for world domination? We know there's a lot in the water in Pittsburgh, though less than before the Republican's began shipping all the factory jobs to Asia.

Posted by: PetervE at March 5, 2004 07:24 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, I think your web site is super! I must hit it 10 times a day to catch up on the latest news. Newspapers and magazines have become almost irrelevant because of the immediacy of your information and your take on events in our country. Keep it up!

Posted by: Michael at March 5, 2004 08:23 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah, I also checked out Kesier's "helpful" source on how Teresa Heinz-Kerry is using foundation money to help destroy America. Ha! The diatribe you find there is written by a guy from the Capital Research Center, a right-wing outfit that cringes at any expenditures on social programs. Here is the CRC's own description of its activities, culled from its web site:

Capital Research Center is analyzing organizations that promote the growth of the welfare state - now almost universally recognized as a failure - and in identifying viable private alternatives to government welfare programs.

These folks sure don't have an ax to grind.

Posted by: TonyB at March 5, 2004 08:44 PM | PERMALINK

No good hints until you resume cat blogging. The world is too depresssing without our weekly kitty fix.

Posted by: four legs good at March 5, 2004 08:49 PM | PERMALINK

Who is Doc Searls?

Posted by: space at March 5, 2004 09:20 PM | PERMALINK

The reason Kevin hasn't been cat-blogging is because he has been down at the docks looking at the ships...you know, navel gazing.

Posted by: Boggs at March 5, 2004 10:01 PM | PERMALINK

js7a -- I guess it was just too much to hope for that JS might stand for John Snow!

Posted by: Suzanne at March 6, 2004 01:43 AM | PERMALINK

Absolutely, blogs are the best! I have leanred much from the gloggers here, such as why it would be indefensible to vote for John Forbes Kerry. I think you gotta go nader, or Bush.

Here's what I see as bloggers main problems with Kerry:

"President Kerry. Please, spare us."

"He's going to turn out to be just like George Bush."

"John Kerry is part of the corrupt political culture in Washington."

"It appears that his word is no good."

"I'm just incensed by his hypocrisy."

"This is not the person we need to head the Democratic Party. I think Senator Kerry is clearly not the person to carry the banner of the Democratic Party because he has acted so much like a Republican."

"Senator Kerry apparently supports the kind of corrupt fund raising, politically corrupt fund-raising mechanisms that George Bush has also employed."

"We are not going to beat George Bush by nominating someone who is the handmaiden of special interests."

"A special-interest clone."

"A candidate of no principle."

Bloggers unit, Nader!

Posted by: keiser at March 6, 2004 03:43 AM | PERMALINK

Heh, all this monkey-typing about a story that was very deliberately built on a false premise.

How embarassing.

Posted by: Tongue Boy at March 9, 2004 01:00 PM | PERMALINK

G'day Kevin Drum,

Someone claiming to be you posted a comment on Tim Blair's blog that seems to be complaining that Tim misrepresented you. The link that Tim puts up leads to this post in which you (humourously) noted that you did not get enough credit for popularising the bogus Guardian article. In your original link to the article you noted that the Guradian was hyping the story not that basically everything the Grauniad said about it was wrong (authors, status, security classification etc).

Tim comments that you don't seem to mind taking some credit for the immense web-popularity for the Gruadina's bogus story. Tim's comment seems valid - if you are the Kevin Drum that complained would you care to provide some detail as to why you feel misrepresented.

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