People don't watch these shows to see people fall in love, they watch them to see people get rejected.

People don't watch American Idol to see people sing good, they watch it to see the losers have their dreams crushed.

You watch survivor not to see who wins, but to see who gets voted off.

All reality TV is about seeing people get rejected. The only difference between reality TV shows is the context in which people get rejected.

You are naive if you think otherwise.

Posted by: TomK at February 26, 2004 10:02 AM | PERMALINK

It demonstrates how much less artificial and more genuine our own romantic involvements, however flawed, are.

Never underestimate the appeal of giving people something to feel superior too.

Posted by: cmdicely at February 26, 2004 10:02 AM | PERMALINK

Marriage: a game show prize.

Now *that's* 'sacred'.

A bit OT but how about an ammendment to ban divorce and retroactively negate all second and higher marriages? John Kerry, are you listening?

Posted by: Doc at February 26, 2004 10:09 AM | PERMALINK

I don't know about the rest of you, but this threatens the sanctity of my marriage!

I want a Constitutional Amendment...

Posted by: Mr Furious at February 26, 2004 10:14 AM | PERMALINK

I am just concerned at the way that gay marriage will undermine the sanctity of marriages arranged by the entertainment division of the FOX network.

-- Austin

Posted by: Austin Mayor at February 26, 2004 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

TomK,

Interesting point. I agree that people watch the shows to see the competition, the most compelling part of which is the drama of the rejection. But do you think viewers empathize with the castoffs, or rather that they feel schadenfreude?

I'm hoping it's the former, but I'm not so sure.

Posted by: ryan_b at February 26, 2004 10:19 AM | PERMALINK

To reinforce TomK's comment: 'Car crash'

Posted by: whynot at February 26, 2004 10:25 AM | PERMALINK

I think the biggest threat to my marriage is that my wife watches "The Apprentice". Seriously, I agree with TomK.The appeal to the masses of all these shows is seeing people get rejected. Hearing "You're fired" or "the tribe has spoken" is obviously music to people's ears.

I just wish the didn't refer to this genre as "reality". More like "unscripted, but produced and edited contrived situations where we're guaranteed to see someone made the fool"

Posted by: adam at February 26, 2004 10:26 AM | PERMALINK

To reinforce TomK's comment: 'Car crash'

unless you're talking about Fox's latest offering: "The Littlest Groom." in that case we've officially graduated to "train wreck."

Posted by: CF at February 26, 2004 10:27 AM | PERMALINK

One of the most powerful things TV can offer is a window onto strong emotions. I don't think it's so much the sadistic pleasure of watching others be disappointed; I think it's the sheer drama of powerful feelings on display. In addition, there's the delightful opportunity for second-guessing ("She SHOULD have picked HIM, not the guy that she did pick!").

Personally I don't get much out of dating shows (although the wife is addicted). Survivor, on the other hand...

Posted by: jimBOB at February 26, 2004 10:30 AM | PERMALINK

ryan b- obviously depends on whether you identify with the cast off or dislike them.

the one in a million romantic ideal is a fairytale, as we can see, one in twenty five will do.

Posted by: some dink at February 26, 2004 10:31 AM | PERMALINK

I happen to think the show reinforces the idea of the "ineffable and mysterious qualities of love." The fact that they CAN develop that kind of emotional connection in a short period of time under artificial circumstances is testament to that.

As for "our common notion that the people we choose as our mates are one in a million," I think we've done a good job of dispelling that myth ourselves, if you look at the divorce rate. Besides, she did choose only one man, when she felt strongly for two. That makes him one in a million, or even one in many milions with half the country being male in a population of almost 300 million.

Oh, and I may be naive but I don't watch this kind of show to watch people get rejected. And I'll take naivete over cold-hearted cynicism any day.

Posted by: Maura at February 26, 2004 10:32 AM | PERMALINK

On romance: let's say you decide to date someone based on (superficially) they're in the top decile (10%) of attractiveness to you.

Let's say you date 20-50 people in your life (might be high, but bear with me). Let's say half dump you, leaving 10-25. You pick the top 1 or 2 as your "perfect" mate. But if you took a random group of 100-250 people, chances are you'd find another who'd suit you just as well.

Of course, what's great about marriage is growing together & shared experience, which isn't captured in the "mall shopping" approach to thinking about a future mate.

Posted by: Tom at February 26, 2004 10:37 AM | PERMALINK

My advice is to discontinue your cable service and throw away your TV antenna. I've been TV free for 8 years now and I feel great.

Posted by: Ron at February 26, 2004 10:37 AM | PERMALINK

For years I've been looking for a phenomenon that I could describe as equally factitious and fictitious. Reality TV is it.

Posted by: Janet Lafler at February 26, 2004 10:38 AM | PERMALINK

Good point.. I think it points out that love is a decision that we make, and for various reasons we as a society have decided that we should only love one person at a time - or better yet, one person for a whole lifetime. But perhaps love isn't such a rare thing. Maybe we're capable of loving 1 out of 100 people, or 1 out of 20, or one out of two.. The decision to love just one person might come from a practical standpoint, and we've forced our romantic values to match up with this Procrustean, pragmatic structure, to give emotional strength to our relationships. What you have with shows like the Bachelorette, I imagine (I've seen similar shows, but I don't think I've seen this one), is a group of very attractive people who are ostensibly looking for love (or money or attention, but let's assume it's more idealistic..), with a mutually agreed-upon ultimate goal of marriage (again, an assumption). Even with just a couple of hand-picked contestants, the likelihood of attraction would be pretty high. And since they all are looking for marriage, they're particularly open to "falling in love."

I had another point to make, but someone else already got to it:

"I don't know about the rest of you, but this threatens the sanctity of my marriage!

I want a Constitutional Amendment..."

Posted by: kevin at February 26, 2004 10:41 AM | PERMALINK

Never watched a single one.

The sooner this "reality show" craze goes out of style, the better. IMO.

Posted by: Occam's Cuisinart at February 26, 2004 10:43 AM | PERMALINK

speaking of racial insensitivity..
these shows make a lot of incorrect assumptions

Posted by: annie at February 26, 2004 10:46 AM | PERMALINK

How do bad TV shows get viewers? Well, how do 50 million people vote for George W. Bush? This is America. 70 percent of people think God floats on a puffy white cloud.

Posted by: Nick at February 26, 2004 10:47 AM | PERMALINK

Well, do they really think it's a "puffy" cloud? Some might say pillowy.

Posted by: ryan_b at February 26, 2004 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

Another point.

I think people are more likely to fall in love in very stressful situations. It's easy to see how this would evolve, if you are in a stressful situation, you better spread your DNA before you are killed by it. Of course, the same stress that used to be caused by things that were life threatening is now caused by being on TV.

"But do you think viewers empathize with the castoffs, or rather that they feel schadenfreude?"

Definatly schadenfreude (Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others I had to go look it up). Remember when the castoffs were allowed back onto the show? Well, everyone thought that was horrible. They had already been voted off, why let them back on. If peoples primary motivation for the show was empathy with the losers, they would of been glad to see some com back, not outraged.

Posted by: TomK at February 26, 2004 10:55 AM | PERMALINK

Must be Bush's fault. Or Rush Limbaugh's. They're using reality shows to distract the U.S. from Bush's failures as president. Damn those right-wing conspiators. Karl Rove strikes again!

Posted by: Jason at February 26, 2004 10:58 AM | PERMALINK

We know it's not reality. We like to watch beautiful people pretend to love each other, just like any other romantic drama.

Posted by: Tripp at February 26, 2004 11:01 AM | PERMALINK

I constantly tell my wife that the heart of these shows is sadism and she shouldn't watch them. Then she asks me why I fell the deep need to watch UCLA lose to USC again.

Posted by: CalDem at February 26, 2004 11:03 AM | PERMALINK

Oh, no! It's the finale already?!? I didn't even realize that the season had started.

My wife and I have watched every episode of the "Bachelor" and the "Bachelorette" from thebeginning. But we missed this whole season!

That's okay -- to be honest, this Bachelorette didn't seem terribly engaging. She's a very pretty girl, but doesn't strike me as particularly charismatic.

The best part about Trista as Bachelorette is that when she started the show, it was pretty obvious that the whole thing was simply meant to further her career. But by the end, she actually seemed to like the guy. I'm not sure how healthy that is, but it sure was interesting to see.

I guess they were trying to pick a "girl next door" type when they selected the current Bachelorette. The other finalists were too crazy. This one wasn't crazy, but she wasn't particularly interesting, either.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe at February 26, 2004 11:05 AM | PERMALINK

Coming this fall on FOX:

Death RowMance!

Who Wants to Neuter a Millionaire?

Election Day Distraction Celebrity Death Match LIVE.

. . . well, I'd better stop. If one of these actually made it on the air I couldn't live with myself.

Posted by: Stefan Jones at February 26, 2004 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

The participants in these shows are all whores. They are in this for nothing more than celebrity, money, and sex. The fact that it is sold as "love" to millions of accepting viewers makes me sick. How many of these "relationships" are still alive past the finale's broadcast anyway?

Posted by: apl at February 26, 2004 11:11 AM | PERMALINK

But on the plus side, they can be fun to gamble on.

Posted by: apl at February 26, 2004 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

These shows are racist. Or rather, THE BACHELOR is.

My company handed out a casting call for THE BACHELOR which specifically said that female applicants could be any race, but asked for only white male applicants. Not being a white male, I almost went just to see what the producers would say if I showed up, but there's more productive things to do with time than that.

Posted by: Brooklyn Sword Style at February 26, 2004 11:12 AM | PERMALINK

The firstJoe Millionaire was no racist. He seemed to prefer ethnic girls. A Yenta made it to the finals!

Posted by: Joe Schmoe at February 26, 2004 11:16 AM | PERMALINK

Joeschmoe (how appropriate is that)
try to learn the difference between ethnic
and race --you might move up from schmoe to
schmeel

Posted by: ann at February 26, 2004 11:29 AM | PERMALINK

"People don't watch these shows to see people fall in love, they watch them to see people get rejected." Yup. I've listened to the occasional conversation on this "reality show" or another (morning DJs love talking about them too) and a big part of the talk is along the lines of, "Why didn't so-and-so get voted off? How the hell could he choose _her_?" etc. And who wants to watch someone else win a million dollars? At least with game shows you can amuse yourself by shouting answers at the TV.

Posted by: wensleydale at February 26, 2004 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

What's the mystery? The Bachelor(ette) premise is simple and realistic: Young, single person seeks amiable, heterosexual relationship with same. How is this alien to the way it's usually done?

If you (as a young, single person) spent a few months having all-expensed-paid dates with 25 eligable folks prescreened for looks, personality, interest in a relationship, etc., etc. would you not fall for at least one of them? If you count the number of people you dated for more than a few days, discounting those nut-cases you failed to detect right away, did it take more than 25 to find a good one?

And what's up with the "I hate reality shows" cynicism? I'd watch a hundred reality shows before a new sit-com, game show, news magazine program, vanity talk show, etc. What sanctity of television broadcasting do reality shows violate? (insert burst of laugh track to make me look clever even though what I said was not)

But I admire those who give TV up entirely. That must feel kind of weird living among those of us who willingly receive our daily doses of trend-setting, commercial-culture enhancements.

Posted by: brent at February 26, 2004 11:35 AM | PERMALINK

I'm really suprised that you watched it, Kevin.

I figured these gushy, lovey-duvey dating shows were predominantly watched by women. I'm suprised to find some men on this board who watch them regularly. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....

Despite the fact that I am a woman, (and therefore part of the "target audience") the appeal of these shows is often perplexing to me. I find them incredibly cheesy and littered with faux romance. The contestants don't discuss anything interesting, unless you enjoy empty platitudes such as "I'm willing to open my heart to you" and "looking into your eyes, I know you are the one". If a man said that to me, I wouldn't know whether to giggle or vomit. Seriously.

Having said that, I must confess that I don't know if I am a die-hard cynic or just crippled romantically.

Posted by: VR at February 26, 2004 11:37 AM | PERMALINK

VR-

I like those shows becuase many of the contestants are MENTALLY ILL. It's not the rejection. It's watching women who seemed perfectly normal fall in love with a guy who they've known for all of fifteen minutes, on national TV no less.

A lot of the contestants are just people who want to give their careers a boost. But maybe one in five is really crazy. They are so desperate, or so emotionally nutso, that they actually begin falling in love with the Bachelor or Bachelorette.

The guys are not as entertaining. Some of them are crazy, too (I have always wondered about Ryan -- what's really going on under that amiable facade? Not sure I want to find out...

But they guys don't get into fights with one another like the women do. They basically hang out and party at the bachelor pad. The women, by contrast, are always reducing one another to tears. It's great!

I guess I should feel sorry for these emotionally troubled people, but I don't. It's just so much fun to see them go to pieces!

Posted by: Joe Schmoe at February 26, 2004 11:46 AM | PERMALINK

I don't know that the conclusion to draw from these reality shows is that people fall in love easily.

The conclusion instead might be that the competitive, low-esteem folks who appear on these shows are easily drawn into poor relationships with each other.

Posted by: DanM at February 26, 2004 11:58 AM | PERMALINK

"Reality TV" is an oxymoron

Posted by: AntiSmirk at February 26, 2004 12:04 PM | PERMALINK

Kev, I've always had pretty much the same reaction to "romantic" reality shows. Meridith Phillips is very pretty, I'll grant. But she's allowing the search for a life partner to be reduced to the level of a stupid game show: how much of a catch can she be?

Posted by: ChristianPinko at February 26, 2004 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

You watch survivor not to see who wins, but to see who gets voted off.

I agree with all you said TomK, except the Survivor part. I actually like the competitions very much and find the team dynamics, or lack thereof, fascinating. Survivor is really more of a Game Show in the traditional sense. I can't watch the others you mention at all.

Posted by: Gatchaman at February 26, 2004 12:27 PM | PERMALINK

For a lot of people that's how the world works. When you're young you hang around with a "crowd" and eventually sleep with some of them. "Love" on the average lasts about 7 years- nowhere near as strong an emotion as the other prejudices we learn at home.

After the first marriage most women get a lot more choosy, so the shows aren't that far off there either. Read the Personal ads or eavesdrop on a gang of women and you'll find that looks are nowhere near as important as a good job, money in the bank, and a fair prenup when they choose a second husband.

If you want to see something romantic on tv, watch Married with Children.

Posted by: serial catowner at February 26, 2004 12:31 PM | PERMALINK

I think one of the important distinctions that often gets (deliberately) lost in the shuffle is the difference between falling in love, and professing (or even believing) professing that one has fallen in love. The dating-style reality shows are, to me, nothing more than a calculated exercise in self-delusion on behalf of the participants. YMMV.

Posted by: Anarch at February 26, 2004 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/

Check it out...

Posted by: peter jung at February 26, 2004 12:41 PM | PERMALINK

I don't believe in the "only one true love" bullshit. We can love many people throughout our lives many at the same time. Marriage is making a commitment to one person. It's fricking hard, that's why so many marriages fail. Love is biology. Humans who loved, were protected by the group and were able to reproduce, nutured their young to adulthood and in return were cared for by their young when they were old.

Posted by: msampie at February 26, 2004 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

Why do they fall in love?

Two words: Stockholm Syndrome

Reality is what hits when these people get out from in front of the cameras and see what they've done!

Posted by: Chris at February 26, 2004 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

"But do you think viewers empathize with the castoffs, or rather that they feel schadenfreude?"

Yes! Of course!

Posted by: Michael Farris at February 26, 2004 12:57 PM | PERMALINK

Falling in love with love
Is falling for make-believe
Falling in love with love
Is playing the fool

Caring too much is juvenile fancy
Learning to trust is just
For children in school
I fell in love with love one night
When the mood was full
I was unwise with eyes
Unable to see

I fell in love with love
With love everlasting
But love fell out with me

Posted by: Forever Forlorn at February 26, 2004 01:02 PM | PERMALINK

It's mainly to see who gets kicked off the show next and dealing with your own fantasies of who should be kicked off or what you would do in a similar situation.

I don't believe that some of these "Reality" shows are unscripted. Some are obviously a ruse and a ridiculous waste of time.

I think that it's sad that TV has gone from live entertainment to pseudo-live entertainment. Shows have gone from mildly entertaining because there were only the 5 or 6 channels in town to repulsively vapid with 30+ channels. Look at all the UFO and ghost and tales of the unexplained and I talk to dead people that are on the more "intellectual" channels, like Discovery. Or the extrordinaryly brain-cell challenged remodel the garage, car or house and garden shows there are. Not to mention the Antiques Roadshow phenomena. And to put the icing on the cake, one word, sports.

The problem is that the outside is an unwelcoming place anymore. We used to talk to our neighbors because we would see them outside in the back yard, not hidden behind a fence. We could walk from A to Z without trespassing, even if we did. You can't get anywhere because average John Q. Public is certain you are the boogey-man.

That is the attraction of "Reality" television. It lets people see what life would be like if they weren't hidden behind their fence and alarm system.

Posted by: Dave at February 26, 2004 01:15 PM | PERMALINK

Joe Schmoe --

I'm glad somebody else notices that these reality-TV types are sort of kooky. Could you ever see yourself on one of these shows? I tried this mental exercise once and it turned out ugly.

I agree with you: the women on the Bachelor are much more fun to watch in a sick sort of way. Funny how they just cry all of the time. It's better when they get catty -- cat fights make for good ratings, I guess.

Posted by: VR at February 26, 2004 01:20 PM | PERMALINK

I "had" to watch it because my wife deigned to watch the Sex and the City finale with me.

Posted by: Out4Blood at February 26, 2004 01:20 PM | PERMALINK

What bugs me is how sexist a lot of these shows are. But then, that's TV for ya.

I'd love to see an Average Jane with lots of REAL WOMEN and one hunky guy forced to choose. Unfortunately, America doesn't like looking at real women unless they're being transformed on "Extreme Makeover" (or they're on the nightly news Buttcam).

Posted by: Librul at February 26, 2004 01:21 PM | PERMALINK

Make that the nightly news FatButtCam. Anyone who's ever seen a fat segment on the evening news knows exactly what I'm talkin' 'bout.

Posted by: Librul at February 26, 2004 01:23 PM | PERMALINK

I chose my wife out of a magazine. Then I found out that she only wanted to get a ticket to this country. Nothing about me or finding a cosy relationship. Well I went the magazine route a few more times and I finally got the woman I wanted, and she me. Looking through the magazine I realized had nothing to do about love, only the need for a companion. Love came later after I found she would stay. We now have a family.

Posted by: Dan & Menchi at February 26, 2004 01:24 PM | PERMALINK

I confess I have never watched one all the way through. From what I could judge from the clips, the people seemed so vacuous, I couldn't imagine spending 30 minutes with them (are they half-hour shows?).

They make me think of clueless high school kids who have no idea what life is about and get their interpersonal philosophy from Cosmopolitan.

Posted by: chris at February 26, 2004 01:37 PM | PERMALINK

Librul --

I know exactly what you mean. I often wondered if any of the people recognized themselves on T.V. How embarassing. Don't forget the GutCam for the guys.

Posted by: VR at February 26, 2004 01:51 PM | PERMALINK

I've never watched "Survivor" or the "love" shows, but I saw last week's "Apprentice", and thought it intriguing, because renovating and renting out an apartment in a short time frame is a real-world task that requires some ingenuity. Who got fired was of little interest to me. I have seen a couple of episodes of "Idol", and I genuinely cringe when somebody can't sing well, and genuinely enjoy it when somebody displays vocal talent and an understanding of the song they have chosen. I don't think it is accurate to say that the appeal of these shows is strictly based on a desire to see people fail or be rejected.

Posted by: Will Allen at February 26, 2004 01:56 PM | PERMALINK

It's not Love, it's infatuation.

Posted by: Beck at February 26, 2004 02:00 PM | PERMALINK

At first I thought it was infatuation
But woo, it's lasted so long
Now I find myself wanting
To marry you and take you home
Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

You, you, you, you send me
I know you send me
I know you send me
Honest you do

Posted by: Forever Forlorn at February 26, 2004 02:24 PM | PERMALINK

You watch enough of that crap, your head will shrink.

There's a good article in this month's Harpers that argues pretty persuasively that all these shows are essentially reactionary, teaching us all that lying, manipulation, zero-sum analysis and beggar thy neighbor behavior are the path to fame and fortune. I'm inclined to believe it, even if only because Fox is the king of the genre. There is nothing so low that Rupert Murdoch won't stoop to it to make a buck.

What's amazing, as it is in the case of his newspapers, is the gap between the pious sermonizing that appears in the editorials he sponsors on Faux News and the coarse, sadistic, titillating offerings shown on his "entertainment" network. Sometimes I think the guy is schizophrenic, but on reflection, there is consistency. That consistency is greed.

Posted by: Malloy at February 26, 2004 02:40 PM | PERMALINK

"Why do they fall in love? Two words: Stockholm Syndrome"

LOL!

These shows subsume romance into America's obsession: winning and losing.

Posted by: Robert E at February 26, 2004 02:43 PM | PERMALINK

You know, for weeks we have complained that the political media is obsessed with the "horse race" of the primary election campaign and is giving short shrift to issues and positions.

Now in the Bachelorette, Average Joe, Survivor, and Apprentice, we have shows that are essentially only about the competition. Regardless of the human dramas among individuals (which are heavily edited so as to create greater or different drama than what actually occurred), the point of all of these shows is "two men enter, one man leave." Every week, someone loses. And guess what? We love it.

So basically, when we say that we aren't interested in the winners and losers, we are full of shit. We can't get enough of it.

Posted by: the diddy at February 26, 2004 02:43 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder what, if anything, can be said about people who actually compete to be on these shows? Would a "normal" person do it at all? Are these contestants abnormal in some way and, if so, in what way? And how does that affect the show and its outcome?

Personally, I can't imagine subjecting myself to such an experience.

Posted by: PaulB at February 26, 2004 02:44 PM | PERMALINK

Will Allen--
I have to agree with you concerning "The Apprentice"...it is far and away the most interesting of the reality TV shows. What I like the most about it is that the challenges are actually highlighted, rather than the simple moment of firing. I mean, who really gives a shit if team Pogo-Pogo can lift a boat from underwater? On the Apprentice, one sees competitions that are actually somewhat meaningful. One also sees the rather arbitrary and bizarre traits it takes to be "succesfull" in the business world. Take, for instance, the strange dichotomy between "loyalty" and "ruthlessness" that keeps popping up in the board-room.

As far as the romance shows go, I do not understand the appeal. They seem kind of boring.

Posted by: kokblok at February 26, 2004 03:05 PM | PERMALINK

The impact of reality shows is the commercialization of personal relationships. Starting with Survivor, which is basically a game show with physical tests, socializing, and the twist of “voting” off a contestant each week, these shows have been extended to other aspects of personal life (the most popular of which to date appears to be marriage, and now, with The Donald, work)

What all of these shows have in common is the emphasis on commercial (product placement, cash prizes, exotic or expensive locales) values and hyper-competitive themes (contests, game theory, strategies, team and individual tactics).

The tantalizing yet obscene aspect of these shows is to watch the traditional basis for some of our most personal relationships turned upside down by the context of the show. Fair play, trust, cooperation, etc. are either naïve feelings of “losers” or cynical manipulations by worthy game players. You simply cannot believe what people say in these shows, so authenticity is determined by displays of emotion – anger, fear, joy, frustration, etc. It is easy to be confused by the contestants’ emotional displays – it looks as if they are genuinely moved by the staged situation, but you can’t help but feel it’s the winning or losing that is truly affecting them.

Not knowing what is really going on is what leads to the passionate attachment many fans have with these shows – very similar to soap operas, but with a faster pace.

I don’t believe that I could fall in love with a camera watching my every move, but maybe I’m just old fashioned or too self-conscious.

Posted by: peBird at February 26, 2004 03:16 PM | PERMALINK

I have to agree with you concerning "The Apprentice"...it is far and away the most interesting of the reality TV shows.

I find among the most interesting of the reality shows (its one of the few I've watched more than twice by plan rather than by running across it when I was looking for something to have on while doing something else), although the flagship MTV reality series (Real World, Road Rules, and the Real World/Road Rules competitions) are fairly decent, and tend to be better edited (I presume -- could be better cast selection) to actually have interesting relationship and character arcs than most reality shows. Starting Over is pretty good in this respect, too (and its structured to create satisfying character stories, too), although its not particularly my cup of tea (my wife loves it though, and is, I think, more in the target audience).

Posted by: cmdicely at February 26, 2004 03:18 PM | PERMALINK

Reality TV implies a documentary production and the events are actually filmed as if they are live but, in fact, are staged to titillate the audience. We are led to believe we are looking in on personal triumphs/failures and private moments. Don't you really think it should be called "voyeur" TV.

Posted by: pamur at February 26, 2004 03:22 PM | PERMALINK

I wonder what the ultimate success rate of these shows is...

Posted by: praktike at February 26, 2004 03:22 PM | PERMALINK

"I don't know about the rest of you, but this threatens the sanctity of my marriage!

I want a Constitutional Amendment..."

Rea asked his husband, and they both agreed--the sanctity of their marriage is threatened!

Posted by: rea at February 26, 2004 03:25 PM | PERMALINK

I think tonight's task on "The Apprentice" is selling a semi-truck of bottled water with the Trump label. It might be an interesting little case study in marketing and sales techniques.

Posted by: Will Allen at February 26, 2004 03:29 PM | PERMALINK

BTW, Faking It (in the US on BBC America) is hands-down the best reality show I've ever seen, mainly because, contra the title, it's in many ways the only genuine *reality* show I've ever seen.

Posted by: Anarch at February 26, 2004 03:47 PM | PERMALINK

BTW, Faking It (in the US on BBC America) is hands-down the best reality show I've ever seen, mainly because, contra the title, it's in many ways the only genuine *reality* show I've ever seen.

All the BBC reality shows -- Faking It, plus the various makeover and design shows -- are pretty good, and much better than the American copies of them (Faking It I don't think has a copy, but the makeover and design shows do).

Posted by: cmdicely at February 26, 2004 04:25 PM | PERMALINK

I'll be interested in watching when there's a black bachelor or bachelorette... I'm sick of seeing the token non-white-bread contestant being "voted out" in the the 1st or 2nd round.

Posted by: Jesse at February 26, 2004 04:44 PM | PERMALINK

The American appetite for entertainment is insatiable... ‘entertainment’ is expensive — you actually have to ‘pay someone to write’ a script... So-called reality tv is cheap for the networks... now that each hour of ‘entertainment’ is filled with 25+ minutes of commercials, the Corporate pigs are really getting fat.

Posted by: Grandma at February 26, 2004 04:45 PM | PERMALINK

It was better than THIS tv romance: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040226/D80V70BO0.html

Posted by: Charlie at February 26, 2004 04:46 PM | PERMALINK

The girls are hot so guys watch.

The guys are hot so girls watch.

What's so hard about it?

Posted by: look at February 26, 2004 05:34 PM | PERMALINK

Isn't it nice when the topic is non-political like this and suddenly everybody gets along?

Posted by: obscure at February 26, 2004 05:58 PM | PERMALINK

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