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October 04, 2003

NEWSWEEK FINGERS MATTHEWS....Joseph Wilson has said several times that although Karl Rove might not be the person who originally leaked his wife's name, he thinks Rove was definitely involved in pushing the story. Here's how he put it to Ted Koppel last Wednesday:

What I have confidence in — based upon what respectable press people in this town have told me — is that a week after the Novak article came out, Karl Rove was still calling around and talking to press people, saying Wilson's wife is fair game.

The gist of the message, as it was reported back to me right after the phone call, was "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove. He tells me your wife is fair game."

Who was the reporter who said this to Wilson? According to David Corn, Newsweek will report tomorrow that it was Chris Matthews.

Needless to say, Matthews isn't commenting, and this doesn't really move the story forward much. Still, it's one more name to add to the list.

Posted by Kevin Drum at October 4, 2003 09:35 PM | TrackBack


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"Your wife is fair game."

Legality aside, it just turns the stomach, doesn't it?

Posted by: Realish at October 4, 2003 09:55 PM | PERMALINK

Yeah. I actually prefer not to focus on the technical legality of the whole thing. It's both reckless and disgusting, regardless of whether they broke the law.

Posted by: Kevin Drum at October 4, 2003 10:04 PM | PERMALINK

Chris Matthews? But Wilson said his sources were "respectable press people" . . .

Posted by: Swopa at October 4, 2003 10:17 PM | PERMALINK

If his wife was fair game, then why was Arnold a continent away? Usually he tries to jump on things like that.

Posted by: phil at October 4, 2003 10:33 PM | PERMALINK

I always think I can't possibly respect Bushies less. But they keep surprising me.

Posted by: Poop ruiz at October 4, 2003 10:36 PM | PERMALINK

tweety might just end up in gitmo!

Posted by: noam chimpsky at October 4, 2003 10:40 PM | PERMALINK

Put tweety in the same cell as Rush.

Posted by: alias at October 4, 2003 10:58 PM | PERMALINK

Chris the Screamer-

I'd love to bitch-slap This Whore.
He's such a cover-Bush Bitch.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: trout at October 4, 2003 11:03 PM | PERMALINK

Not!

Posted by: trout at October 4, 2003 11:05 PM | PERMALINK

I'm glad that we're in agreement!

Posted by: trout at October 4, 2003 11:08 PM | PERMALINK

This could be part of the reason reporters in the know may not want to come forward. If Newsweek identifies Matthews, he becomes part of the story and the complications could limit his ability to comment except as a subject. It may not be fair, but it could also make him look collusive and disingenuous at this point.

Posted by: hqplink at October 5, 2003 12:18 AM | PERMALINK

I've been thinking that the leaks were made to "journalists" and "reporters"... I'd honestly never considered Tweety in that subset. Huh. Go figure.

Posted by: Thersites at October 5, 2003 01:16 AM | PERMALINK

Hmm... let's play Spin the Pointed Finger! If we assume that Robert Novak of CNN and Chris Matthews of MSNBC were, in fact, leaked this information, to whom was the information leaked at the False News Channel?

Posted by: Michael D. at October 5, 2003 01:18 AM | PERMALINK

If Newsweek identifies Matthews, he becomes part of the story and the complications could limit his ability to comment except as a subject.

Matthews' limitations in commenting are also constrained by his god-given inability to not be an utterly sycophantic twit.

Posted by: Thersites at October 5, 2003 01:19 AM | PERMALINK

I guess I'm missing something here. The hostility directed toward Matthews in this thread is baffling to me. Folks may not be fond of Matthews, and may think he's a bad journalist, but in this situation, he's one of the good guys -- or at least, not one of the bad guys. He got the all clear from Karl Rove to continue leaking the identity of a covert CIA operative, and instead of doing that, he notified the agent's husband to tell the man what's going on and who's doing it.

So dislike Matthews if you want, but this seems the wrong thread in which to bash him relentlessly.

Posted by: Anon. at October 5, 2003 08:49 AM | PERMALINK

Any thread will do for bashing Matthews mercilessly.

He is lower than pond-scum.

Posted by: David Ehrenstein at October 5, 2003 08:58 AM | PERMALINK

Chris the Screamer- I'd love to bitch-slap This Whore. He's such a cover-Bush Bitch.

Ah... the eleqouence, the civility, the polished articulate reasoning of the contemporary Left.

Posted by: Sully at October 5, 2003 08:59 AM | PERMALINK

Micael D.,

Faux News must have receieved the info and even they didn't use it. Perhaps only Novak would use it.

Posted by: MacMan at October 5, 2003 09:29 AM | PERMALINK

It seems to me if a reporter called Joe Wilson and said, "I just talked to Karl Rove and he says your wife is fair game", the reporter has already revealed his source. Subpoena the reporter and ask not "Did Karl Rove say this to you?", but, "Did you say this to Joe Wilson?"

Posted by: Mike Murphy at October 5, 2003 09:35 AM | PERMALINK

Matthews was also consistently against the Iraq war from the start, for whatever that's worth.

Posted by: Haggai at October 5, 2003 09:39 AM | PERMALINK

If we assume that Robert Novak of CNN and Chris Matthews of MSNBC were, in fact, leaked this information, to whom was the information leaked at the False News Channel?

My money's on Hannity.

I'm suspecting now that the "after July 14" cadre that Rove called to push the story is far larger than a mere 6 people.

So here's my theory: maybe only 6 or so extremely Old Boy, trustworthy right-wing columnists/pundits were given the original Plame scoop (George Will was probably one), but after Novak bit and published the plant, Rove went to speed dial in an attempt to ramp it up.

The whole thing was planned out from leaking to goosing it up, but it didn't quite go as expected, because Joe Wilson went on TV and said, "HEY! What they did was illegal!" Suddenly the phones slammed back into the cradles and the Rovians said to themselves, "OH SHIT (what have we done)!"

The alternative reason for Rove working the phones after the leak was that the leaker(s) read Novak's column and then said "OH SHIT (he wasn't supposed to print that)!" and tried to get as many outlets to run with it as quickly as possible in an attempt to blur/overwhelm the criminal nature of the original sourcing.

But Joe headed that tactic off by getting onto TV the next week and alerting the press not to play along. So the leakers didn't get the disguising avalance they wanted, and they also probably sat there biting their nails for a while. They must have been VERY relieved when the press dropped it like a radioactive potato back in July.

Posted by: Julia Grey at October 5, 2003 11:31 AM | PERMALINK

I see this as more subtle

Chris Matthew Andrea Mitchell are people right on the rating cusp. These cable shows are dependent on an audience of right to center,and to really piss off conservatives would destroy their careers. So they won't reveal the source.

Whereas Bill Kristol or George Will might

Posted by: bob mcmanus at October 5, 2003 12:18 PM | PERMALINK

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