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September 28, 2003

TOO COMPLICATED?....The Valerie Plame story is "too complicated" for Glenn Reynolds to understand? Give me a break. That was the same excuse he used with John Lott.

There's nothing complicated in either of these cases. Lott fudged his data and tried to cover it up, pure and simple. Someone in the White House deliberately exposed a CIA operative for political gain, pure and simple.

Look, guys, here was Tacitus this morning:

Still mostly unnamed sources in WaPo this morning, but I think there's no denying that there's something to the Plame affair at this point....and it means trouble for the Administration.

That's the absolute minimum anyone should say about this. If you insist that the evidence isn't clear yet and you're still waiting for confirmation, fine. But at least tell us that, yes, if this is true, it stinks and heads should roll.

Again: this isn't just normal partisan sniping. This is serious stuff, and loyalty to George Bush shouldn't prevent anyone from saying so. From a bunch of folks who have been bleating about moral clarity for over a year, that's the least we can expect.

Posted by Kevin Drum at September 28, 2003 01:32 PM | TrackBack


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It is long past time for intelligent people to cease thinking Glenn Reynolds prioritizes truth and honesty over political partisanship. He drank the Kool-Aid many moons ago. Being the center of the blogosphere universe does not mean he should be taken seriously or respected. The difference between Reynolds and Tacitus is quite telling.

Posted by: Mitch Schindler at September 28, 2003 01:41 PM | PERMALINK

I'm eagerly awaiting the rationalizations as to why the "Rule of Law" that was so sacred when Bill Clinton lied about receiving fellatio from an intern doesn't hold here. This is going to require the Mary Lou Retton of rhetorical gymnastics.

Posted by: Jaquandor at September 28, 2003 01:46 PM | PERMALINK

A commenter at Pandagon said it well: using Instalogic, failing to take this seriously means you are objectively pro-treason.

Posted by: V / VJ at September 28, 2003 02:07 PM | PERMALINK

"Partisan Sniping" formerly known as the opposition. An art long since lost to the ages, practiced during the democratic years of the Empire. Some find it quaint, and perform re-enactments at annual media picnics.

Posted by: squiddy at September 28, 2003 02:20 PM | PERMALINK

One day it'll be Judge Instahack!

Posted by: Instahack at September 28, 2003 02:36 PM | PERMALINK

Jaquandor, they're going to turn it around and blast Democrats by saying, "hey, you guys were arguing against the Rule of Law when it came to the Clenis, so it's not fair to suddenly care about it now!"

We've already seen someone on the Calpundit comments bring up Hillary as a defense for Bush.

--Kynn

Posted by: Kynn at September 28, 2003 02:37 PM | PERMALINK

"Again: this isn't just normal partisan sniping. This is serious stuff, and loyalty to George Bush shouldn't prevent anyone from saying so."

Very little of the major criticisms of Bush are merely partisan snipes any more.

Posted by: tristero at September 28, 2003 02:44 PM | PERMALINK

"It's partisan backstabbing, pure and simple, and it doesn't deserve to be taken seriously."
-- Instapundit writing on July 10, 2003 about the uranium-from-Niger flap in the State Union address

I wonder -- given the recent reports -- if the professor will revist his smear of the administration's critics.

But I'm not holding my breath. Heh.

Posted by: Jim E. at September 28, 2003 04:03 PM | PERMALINK

Indeed.

Posted by: Randy Paul at September 28, 2003 04:24 PM | PERMALINK

Glenn said what I was thinking: why? It doesn't make sense to me to "out" Plame to get revenge on Wilson.

Posted by: Hari at September 28, 2003 04:42 PM | PERMALINK

What part doesn't make sense, Hari? The administration was angry with Wilson for crossing them. They punished him by burning his wife. The message isn't lost on others who might be tempted to fuck with the white house: Do it and we'll burn you too, any way we can.

If by "it doesn't make sense" you mean "I can't believe they'd do it," well, I disagree but I understand. But it certainly does make sense in that it will plausibly serve a plausible goal. The perps are probably astonished that people are talking scandal. I imagine they thought this was just good clean fun, much like, say, the South Carolina primary push polls.

One man's "hardball" is another's "multiple felonies." Who knew?

Posted by: Laertes at September 28, 2003 04:52 PM | PERMALINK

Revenge was only part of it. Intimidation was the primary reason.

The part that's hard to understand is: why would they try this on the CIA? Hubris? Stupidity? Arrogance? All of the above?

Posted by: edub at September 28, 2003 05:42 PM | PERMALINK

Yes all of the above, how ironic is it that the second Bush administration, of all people would pick a fight with the CIA? Poppy has to be popping an artery right about now.

Posted by: Another Bruce at September 28, 2003 05:52 PM | PERMALINK

Has anyone seen the recent "updates" Instapundit has added to his thread on this matter? He's still confused. He thinks the smear job was meant to intimidate Wilson and apparently hasn't considered that the smear job was meant to intimidate future whistleblowers. Wilson, after all, has already told his damn story. What good would it do to intimidate him after the fact??

I hope Instapundit is faking his confusion. How the hell can he teach law if he can't understand the import of a criminal act that no one in the White House has denied?

Posted by: Jim E. at September 28, 2003 06:19 PM | PERMALINK

I think I've got it.

It was Rove and Dan Bartlett, who've worked together for over a decade.

Bartlett's young (31 or so), so might not have the wisdom required to squelch such a horrible idea as outing a CIA agent. He's at that age where you have bright, overconfident people doing massively dumb things such as when Nick Leeson brought down Barings Bank due to bad, risky trades. (Actually, a bit older - Leeson was about 28 when he was jailed).

Further, during that week there might have been an authority vacuum, what with Ari stepping down, leaving an opening for bad ideas to be acted upon.

I don't think Ari did it. Journalists would have little reason not to finger him, since he became a civilian that week. They wouldn't be losing an administration source. And lord knows they weren't that fond of him when he stepped down.

Posted by: Jon H at September 28, 2003 06:37 PM | PERMALINK

I take Reynolds at his word. This is indeed too complicated for him to understand. Heh.

Posted by: Spinning Tops at September 28, 2003 07:29 PM | PERMALINK

Anything that creates serious cognitive dissonance is "too complicated" for Glenn Reynolds to understand. It hurts his head too much to have to rethink basic assumptions.

Posted by: amy curtis at September 28, 2003 07:42 PM | PERMALINK

Instahac...er...pundit has several updates.

Since not everyone can stand to hold their nose long enough to read him, let me summarize:

Neener neener neener I can't HEAR you.

That is all.

Posted by: Tom K at September 28, 2003 09:24 PM | PERMALINK

I read through the Glenn Reynolds ramble to come to the conclusion that it is "too complicated" for him.

Posted by: J Edgar at September 28, 2003 09:27 PM | PERMALINK

Strange that this was too complicated, yet he knew instantly--without even looking into it, really--that MEChA was filled with fascist hatemongers.

Posted by: Brian Flemming at September 28, 2003 09:28 PM | PERMALINK

Josh Marshall has some info about Rove and Novak! check it out : link

Posted by: Drew at September 28, 2003 09:48 PM | PERMALINK

I'm surprised that no one (maybe I've missed someone) has singled out what I find most chilling, the W Administration is saying as plain as day:
"You cross us, and we won't stop with punishing you, we'll go after your loved ones too."

If Instahack can't perceive that he has no business teaching people (about anything).

Posted by: Michael Farris at September 29, 2003 03:41 AM | PERMALINK

"It is long past time for intelligent people to cease thinking Glenn Reynolds prioritizes truth and honesty over political partisanship."

Maybe it's because I haven't been around long enough, but, uh, when was it ever time to do that?

Posted by: Damon at September 29, 2003 04:29 AM | PERMALINK

glenn been think too much head hurt. treason OK.

Posted by: davebanjo at September 29, 2003 07:56 AM | PERMALINK

Look...if someone from the White House didn't leak Plame's name, then someone else high up in the administration did.

The question isn't whether this was an illegal act. The question is WHO committed it.

Either the folks in the White House committed the crime, or someone else with a high enough security clearance in the administration leake dthe info.

Sure, Plame or Joe Wilson could have leaked it, but that's highly unlikely.

And that would require that Bob Novak lied about the level of his source, which is possible, except it was corroborated by the Washington Post story.

Now, was this leaked by the CIA, highly doubtful, as they tried to get Novak and other reporters to not run her name.

Could it be from the Pentagon? A very good guess, provided the source isn't [or wasn't] in the White House.

And, how likely is it that this came from State? Pretty slim.

So, that leaves either the White House, ir someone high enough up at the Pentagon to know the information.

And, since all of the sources say it came form the White House...they look like the culprits.

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