August 12, 2003
RECALL UPDATE....Disappointing recall news tonight: many of
the fine citizens who turned in papers to run for governor have been
found wanting. The Secretary of State's latest count is 131 confirmed candidates with 40 more still under review, so the maximum will be a piddling 171 candidates.
The final candidate list will be announced Wednesday. Then all we
have to do is print ballots in seven languages, get statements from all
the candidates, print up the voter pamphlets, recruit poll workers,
fight some court battles, and we're all ready to go!
In other musings, it occurred to me today that Proposition 54, the
initiative that's also on the ballot, is going to have an interesting
effect. Prop 54 would ban government agencies from collecting racial
data and it's certain to be a hot button among minority voters. So will
Arnold come out for it or against it? It's one thing to be vague about
balancing the budget, but he's hardly going to be able to avoid a
straight answer on this. My guess is that he loses votes either way....
Posted by Kevin Drum at August 12, 2003 09:54 PM
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I suspect the best way for Arnold to maximize votes is to take no
position at all on the Racial Privacy Initiative (Prop 54) and, sadly,
that is exactly what he will do. A star struck public will vote Arnie
in without knowing the first thing about his politics.
Aaah, Kev, I expect you Californians will keep us entertained for a good while longer.
Poll worker recruitment began the day after the election date was
set. I returned my card saying I would work more than a week ago. :)
Just a thought- I'm not so sure Arnold would even need to take a
definitive yes or no position on the substance of the Proposition. He
could say that "as drafted" it is unclear exactly what the scope of the
Proposition will be and that while he beleives that there are legitimate
questions about how long the state should be in the business of
collecting racial data, because provisions such as subsection (i) are
too loose/vague/ambiguous/open to interpretation he doesn't think the
current form of the initiative should be passed. He can say that if the
current form of the inititative is passed there will doubtless be years
of court fights and it makes more sense to go back to the drawing board
and try to come up with a better drafted version instead of wasting
state money on years of court fights and getting everyone inflamed over
the race issue where no one seems to agree on how it will be
interpreted.
It looks like you could drive a truck through that and other
subsections depending on how loosely they are interpreted. ["(i)
Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting action which
must be taken to comply with federal law, or establish or maintain
eligibility for any federal program, where ineligibility would result in
a loss of federal funds to the state."]
re: fight some court battles.
Should not be a problem we have enough lawyers.
Come 'Recall Day' Arnie will buried so deep in the polls that he'll be lucky to carry a single precinct in Orange county.
Now how on earth could a person ever reach that conclusion? Dave?
"Pete Wilson y Arnold, la pareja racista." Oh oh.
And it's not just Univision.com's readers who say that. It sounds
like Univision has finally had to break its silence. The front page
of its national news section states the following, with links to the
full story:
"California gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger named Pete
Wilson, promoter of xenophobic laws, chief of his campaign."
More on the Spanish language press's coverage at JUSIPER...
Ahrnolt! LAVS immigration. He will stand and attest to it being a terrific gift. He will be the poster boy for this.
There are really only 3 names on the October 7th ballot.
ONE, stands alone. If Davis is NOT recalled, it's over for everybody else.
TWO, if Davis IS recalled, then it's Bustamante's race to lose.
(And, he loses ONLY IF the Mexicans aren't as enthused about going to
the polls, as readers here seem to be.)
THREE: It's Ahrnolt! by a smile.
Of course, Harry Potter mania has died down. And, what's it been about 6 weeks since it's release?
Just because the State goes crazy and prepares lots of ballots, isn't
yet a guarantee that lots of people will show up to this party. Once,
free beers could be given to voters. But, alas, no more.
We could have a major earthquake that could cut into voting.
We could have a major war in the Mideast, that might detract from
this headline. And, once you lose front page placement, who knows what
happens to this story? Ahrnolt! would be left posing in front of his
mirror, I suppose?
Anyway, I want to vote for Gallahger. So, I'm looking forward to voting.
But things can change on a dime.
That's what happens when there's a dirth of real issues at stake.
By the way, the worst outcome is that Davis wins. Because it
establishes this POS as a viable candidate up ahead. So sad. So sad.
He really is bad news.
Meanwhile, the car alarm salesman wasted his money. Right away, the public's gotten it's first benefit.
re: Heat wave in France
Here's a quote from the story:
"100 people have died from heat-related causes in the last eight days in the Paris area"
They didn't want to go to Iraq, so the weather is bringing Iraq to them.
France is becoming a quagmire; two more weeks and the death toll will
surpass the second Gulf War. France should just surrender now and avoid
the carnage.
If Davis isn't recalled, can we charge Issa the cost of holding the election?
Has the Republican Party taken an official stand on the initiative?
Has the Republican Party taken an official stand on the initiative?
That's like asking if Bush has taken a position on tax cuts!
If he does not pick a side on 54 he will be assumed to be for it
because he was for Prop 187. People will think that he is a racist
because of their assumptions, and oh yeah, his father was a Nazi too.
People in California walk to the beat of a different drummer. A drummer on crack.
The people who would not vote for him because of his position on 54 are not going to vote for him under any circumstance.
I posted an article on Proposition 54
here.
Rove gets Arnie into the race. Rove thinks Hispanics are a crucial voting bloc for the felons who steal elections and start wars based upon lies.
Arnie promptly alienates the Hispanics.
Rove is a genius. I so believe you.
Hey Smith, do you think Chicago should have surrounded in 1995 when
between 400-700 people died in a little more than a week because of
extreme heat. have some f_cking compassion you twit, people are not
supposed to live in concrete environments when the temperature reaches
100-110 degrees when there is no reasonable shelter or air conditioning.
Fester
>>That's what happens when there's a dirth of real issues at stake.
If there's no real issues at stake, then why the recall election? I
would think that anybody who thinks that there are no real issues at
stake would automatically be against the recall - which seems to me to
be THE ISSUE.
A star struck public will vote Arnie in without knowing the first thing about his politics.
You don't have to be star struck. Most people will pull a lever for a
Democrat or a Republican right down the line without ever once taking
into account what their views are.
Speaking about Pete Wilson, remember his racist comment about Prop.
187 being "the last gasp of Mexican-Americans in California?"
Oh, wait, he never said that.
It was actually CA Democratic Party Chairman who said that Prop. 187 was "the last gasp of white America in California."
Here's another quote you might find interesting. This is from a Mexican government official:
"By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who are
tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able
to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its
dealings with Mexico."
Interesting argument, lonewacko, especially when you switch a few words around but keep the logic the same:
"By populating the United States with millions of Jews who are tied
economically, politically and religiously to Israel, we are able to
exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings in
the Middle East".
Somehow, I doubt this statement would go without some, erm, unhappiness
from good ol' Blogistan. It would be (justifiably) considered
anti-Semitic, and variations of it have been called so in the past. It's
also been levelled at Catholics in the past too, to equally evil ends.
So why is it that you're hauling out quotations that accomplish the same thing?
Is it somehow different when they're "wetbacks", Lonewacko?
Personally, what I'm looking forward to is the gubernatorial debates.
"Okay, candidate 53...what is your position?"
PaulB - if there is a debate, surely the entire time would be taken
up just introducing all the candidates before any of them got a chance
to actually speak?
Still, it'd be fun if the Californian media were subject to the same
rules as the British media in covering the race - over here if you
mention one candidate in an election you have to give at least a mention
to all the others...
The final list is out at the Sec State's website ... 135 candidates. Sweet Jesus.
Gentlepersons, start your horses.
Hey Demo, thanks for making my point, however we still need to work on that ol' reading comprehension part of things.
The quote above was not from me, it was from a Mexican government official.
Here's the quote again, and bear in mind this is a Mexican government official speaking:
"By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who
are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are
able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its
dealings with Mexico."
(This is, of course, not the first time something like this has happened. Search for "Nell Soto" here)
Sorry to hear that. Hope you'll be blogging soon. Will miss it.
Cool Blog Check out mine at
The fact is he lied through his teeth to congress but they just don't
have the cajones to do anything about it. The only recourse for the
public is to vote him out.
That's great! I'm so happy for you.
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