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August 12, 2003

RECALL UPDATE....Disappointing recall news tonight: many of the fine citizens who turned in papers to run for governor have been found wanting. The Secretary of State's latest count is 131 confirmed candidates with 40 more still under review, so the maximum will be a piddling 171 candidates.

The final candidate list will be announced Wednesday. Then all we have to do is print ballots in seven languages, get statements from all the candidates, print up the voter pamphlets, recruit poll workers, fight some court battles, and we're all ready to go!

In other musings, it occurred to me today that Proposition 54, the initiative that's also on the ballot, is going to have an interesting effect. Prop 54 would ban government agencies from collecting racial data and it's certain to be a hot button among minority voters. So will Arnold come out for it or against it? It's one thing to be vague about balancing the budget, but he's hardly going to be able to avoid a straight answer on this. My guess is that he loses votes either way....

Posted by Kevin Drum at August 12, 2003 09:54 PM | TrackBack


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I suspect the best way for Arnold to maximize votes is to take no position at all on the Racial Privacy Initiative (Prop 54) and, sadly, that is exactly what he will do. A star struck public will vote Arnie in without knowing the first thing about his politics.

Posted by: Jeff at August 12, 2003 10:06 PM | PERMALINK

Aaah, Kev, I expect you Californians will keep us entertained for a good while longer.

Posted by: Melanie at August 12, 2003 10:09 PM | PERMALINK

Poll worker recruitment began the day after the election date was set. I returned my card saying I would work more than a week ago. :)

Posted by: aphrael at August 12, 2003 10:12 PM | PERMALINK

Just a thought- I'm not so sure Arnold would even need to take a definitive yes or no position on the substance of the Proposition. He could say that "as drafted" it is unclear exactly what the scope of the Proposition will be and that while he beleives that there are legitimate questions about how long the state should be in the business of collecting racial data, because provisions such as subsection (i) are too loose/vague/ambiguous/open to interpretation he doesn't think the current form of the initiative should be passed. He can say that if the current form of the inititative is passed there will doubtless be years of court fights and it makes more sense to go back to the drawing board and try to come up with a better drafted version instead of wasting state money on years of court fights and getting everyone inflamed over the race issue where no one seems to agree on how it will be interpreted.

It looks like you could drive a truck through that and other subsections depending on how loosely they are interpreted. ["(i) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting action which must be taken to comply with federal law, or establish or maintain eligibility for any federal program, where ineligibility would result in a loss of federal funds to the state."]

Posted by: Mr. Olympia at August 12, 2003 10:43 PM | PERMALINK

re: fight some court battles.

Should not be a problem we have enough lawyers.

Posted by: wayne of searchthelinks blog at August 12, 2003 10:45 PM | PERMALINK

Come 'Recall Day' Arnie will buried so deep in the polls that he'll be lucky to carry a single precinct in Orange county.

Now how on earth could a person ever reach that conclusion? Dave?

Posted by: Simple Simon at August 13, 2003 12:59 AM | PERMALINK

"Pete Wilson y Arnold, la pareja racista." Oh oh.

And it's not just Univision.com's readers who say that. It sounds like Univision has finally had to break its silence. The front page of its national news section states the following, with links to the full story:

"California gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger named Pete Wilson, promoter of xenophobic laws, chief of his campaign."

More on the Spanish language press's coverage at JUSIPER...

Posted by: JUSIPER at August 13, 2003 05:43 AM | PERMALINK

Ahrnolt! LAVS immigration. He will stand and attest to it being a terrific gift. He will be the poster boy for this.

There are really only 3 names on the October 7th ballot.

ONE, stands alone. If Davis is NOT recalled, it's over for everybody else.

TWO, if Davis IS recalled, then it's Bustamante's race to lose. (And, he loses ONLY IF the Mexicans aren't as enthused about going to the polls, as readers here seem to be.)

THREE: It's Ahrnolt! by a smile.

Of course, Harry Potter mania has died down. And, what's it been about 6 weeks since it's release?

Just because the State goes crazy and prepares lots of ballots, isn't yet a guarantee that lots of people will show up to this party. Once, free beers could be given to voters. But, alas, no more.

We could have a major earthquake that could cut into voting.

We could have a major war in the Mideast, that might detract from this headline. And, once you lose front page placement, who knows what happens to this story? Ahrnolt! would be left posing in front of his mirror, I suppose?

Anyway, I want to vote for Gallahger. So, I'm looking forward to voting.

But things can change on a dime.

That's what happens when there's a dirth of real issues at stake.

By the way, the worst outcome is that Davis wins. Because it establishes this POS as a viable candidate up ahead. So sad. So sad. He really is bad news.

Meanwhile, the car alarm salesman wasted his money. Right away, the public's gotten it's first benefit.

Posted by: Carol Herman at August 13, 2003 05:52 AM | PERMALINK

re: Heat wave in France

Here's a quote from the story:

"100 people have died from heat-related causes in the last eight days in the Paris area"

They didn't want to go to Iraq, so the weather is bringing Iraq to them.

France is becoming a quagmire; two more weeks and the death toll will surpass the second Gulf War. France should just surrender now and avoid the carnage.

Posted by: SMITH at August 13, 2003 07:16 AM | PERMALINK

If Davis isn't recalled, can we charge Issa the cost of holding the election?

Posted by: Mike at August 13, 2003 07:31 AM | PERMALINK

Has the Republican Party taken an official stand on the initiative?

Posted by: PaulB at August 13, 2003 07:50 AM | PERMALINK

Has the Republican Party taken an official stand on the initiative?

That's like asking if Bush has taken a position on tax cuts!

Posted by: Adam at August 13, 2003 08:21 AM | PERMALINK

If he does not pick a side on 54 he will be assumed to be for it because he was for Prop 187. People will think that he is a racist because of their assumptions, and oh yeah, his father was a Nazi too.

People in California walk to the beat of a different drummer. A drummer on crack.

The people who would not vote for him because of his position on 54 are not going to vote for him under any circumstance.

I posted an article on Proposition 54
here
.

Posted by: Austin Barrow at August 13, 2003 08:51 AM | PERMALINK

Rove gets Arnie into the race. Rove thinks Hispanics are a crucial voting bloc for the felons who steal elections and start wars based upon lies.

Arnie promptly alienates the Hispanics.

Rove is a genius. I so believe you.

Posted by: paradox at August 13, 2003 08:56 AM | PERMALINK

Hey Smith, do you think Chicago should have surrounded in 1995 when between 400-700 people died in a little more than a week because of extreme heat. have some f_cking compassion you twit, people are not supposed to live in concrete environments when the temperature reaches 100-110 degrees when there is no reasonable shelter or air conditioning.

Fester

Posted by: fester at August 13, 2003 09:22 AM | PERMALINK

>>That's what happens when there's a dirth of real issues at stake.

If there's no real issues at stake, then why the recall election? I would think that anybody who thinks that there are no real issues at stake would automatically be against the recall - which seems to me to be THE ISSUE.

Posted by: Andy at August 13, 2003 09:40 AM | PERMALINK

A star struck public will vote Arnie in without knowing the first thing about his politics.

You don't have to be star struck. Most people will pull a lever for a Democrat or a Republican right down the line without ever once taking into account what their views are.

Posted by: Jay Caruso at August 13, 2003 09:54 AM | PERMALINK

Speaking about Pete Wilson, remember his racist comment about Prop. 187 being "the last gasp of Mexican-Americans in California?"

Oh, wait, he never said that.

It was actually CA Democratic Party Chairman who said that Prop. 187 was "the last gasp of white America in California."

Here's another quote you might find interesting. This is from a Mexican government official:

"By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico."

Posted by: your friends at the Lonewacko Blog at August 13, 2003 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

Interesting argument, lonewacko, especially when you switch a few words around but keep the logic the same:

"By populating the United States with millions of Jews who are tied economically, politically and religiously to Israel, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings in the Middle East".

Somehow, I doubt this statement would go without some, erm, unhappiness from good ol' Blogistan. It would be (justifiably) considered anti-Semitic, and variations of it have been called so in the past. It's also been levelled at Catholics in the past too, to equally evil ends.

So why is it that you're hauling out quotations that accomplish the same thing?

Is it somehow different when they're "wetbacks", Lonewacko?

Posted by: Demosthenes at August 13, 2003 03:19 PM | PERMALINK

Personally, what I'm looking forward to is the gubernatorial debates.

"Okay, candidate 53...what is your position?"

Posted by: PaulB at August 13, 2003 04:00 PM | PERMALINK

PaulB - if there is a debate, surely the entire time would be taken up just introducing all the candidates before any of them got a chance to actually speak?

Still, it'd be fun if the Californian media were subject to the same rules as the British media in covering the race - over here if you mention one candidate in an election you have to give at least a mention to all the others...

Posted by: Nick at August 13, 2003 04:22 PM | PERMALINK

The final list is out at the Sec State's website ... 135 candidates. Sweet Jesus.

Gentlepersons, start your horses.

Posted by: Simon at August 13, 2003 05:51 PM | PERMALINK

Hey Demo, thanks for making my point, however we still need to work on that ol' reading comprehension part of things.

The quote above was not from me, it was from a Mexican government official.

Here's the quote again, and bear in mind this is a Mexican government official speaking:

"By populating the United States with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico."

(This is, of course, not the first time something like this has happened. Search for "Nell Soto" here)

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