Newspaper Blogs

July 31, 2003

A DIFFERENT VIEW ON THE WMD HUNT....Yesterday the Washington Post reported that we were making no progress on finding either WMD or WMD programs. Today, presumably based on different sources, CNN takes a somewhat more optimistic view:

[David] Kay and Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton, the head of the Pentagon's Iraq Survey Groups, met for three hours behind closed doors with members of the Senate Armed Services Committee....Kay and Dayton were due to also brief the Senate Intelligence Committee Thursday afternoon....Sources told CNN the men were to make the following points:

  • No confirmed chemical or biological material is in hand. Although they have tested suspect material, "there is nothing you could take to court," said one source.

  • More leads have emerged since the deaths of Saddam's sons, Uday and Qusay Hussein.

  • The conclusion that Iraq had an "active WMD program" is based on recent interrogations of Iraqi regime officials, as well as documents that the United States has seized. Those documents, the sources said, show that Iraq had plans to destroy weapons stockpiles quickly; shift dual-use plants from weapons to commercial production as part of a deception effort; and reconstitute its weapons if it had to destroy them in the face of inspections or a U.S. attack.

Offering one example, one official said a document was found a few weeks ago that detailed how a dual-use commercial chemical plant might operate. The document specified in detail how equipment should be shifted to weapons production.

So who's right? Stay tuned.

Posted by Kevin Drum at July 31, 2003 12:15 PM | TrackBack


Just how far can the goalposts be moved on this issue? Did we go to war because of the threat of WMD plans, or because of actual WMDs? I'm sorry, but shouldn't we be spending a wee bit more time following up on the Saudi money trail to Al Qaeda?

Posted by: David W. at July 31, 2003 12:21 PM | PERMALINK

Offering one example, one official said a document was found a few weeks ago that detailed how a dual-use commercial chemical plant might operate.

C'mon. A document? Might operate? This is the kind of garbage they are going to trot out to get words like 'leads','WMD','plans' into the news so people continue to believe the company line? If I look at the balance in my checking account now, I might have a million dollars. But I wouldn't bet on it...

Posted by: han at July 31, 2003 12:23 PM | PERMALINK

It'd be nice if they gave dates on those documents.

I won't be terribly impressed if they all date from the mid-90s.

Posted by: Jon H at July 31, 2003 12:23 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think they're directly contradictory. From yesterday's post:

No matter the circumstances, all of the scientists interviewed have denied that Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear weapons program or developed and hidden chemical or biological weapons since United Nations inspectors left in 1998. Several key Iraqi officials questioned the significance of evidence cited by the Bush administration to suggest that Hussein was stepping up efforts to develop new weapons of mass destruction programs.

So they (the Iraqis) denied that he restarted the nuclear weapons program (who really believed that in the first place, anyway?), and denied that he had developed biological or chemical weapons since '98. But didn't deny the existence of bio/chem programs, just downplayed the "significance of evidence", whatever that means.

Posted by: Christopher Luebcke at July 31, 2003 12:24 PM | PERMALINK

The conclusion that Iraq had an "active WMD program" is based on recent interrogations of Iraqi regime officials, as well as documents that the United States has seized.

Wait, Wait I know 12 years-ago it got buried under a rosebush, right?

--Did they found the mother-load of documents but have to the scrape the mildew and fugus off for having been in a damp celler down by river for some time now????

You know that if they had destroyed any WMD recently what would tangible evidence left—anthrax spores alone can live up to 2 to 3 years in the dirt. Bush didn't shit about what Iraq had.

Posted by: Cheryl at July 31, 2003 12:29 PM | PERMALINK

oops that should be:

You know that if they had destroyed any WMD recently there would tangible evidence left—anthrax spores alone can live up to 2 to 3 years in the dirt. Bush didn't know shit about what Iraq had in the way of WMD to be going off telling Americans in his SOTU speech that Iraq have TONS of anything except maybe documents.

Posted by: Cheryl at July 31, 2003 12:33 PM | PERMALINK

It'd be nice if they gave dates on those documents.

I don't know that I would trust a date without some chemical or bio-weapon evidence. This is why the Bushies really need to let the UN inspectors back into Iraq because doesn't Bush already have one fraudulent Niger yellowcake document he tried to pass off at the UN?

Posted by: Cheryl at July 31, 2003 12:42 PM | PERMALINK

See Digby's recent post on Chalabi, then re-read anything anyone says about "documents".

Posted by: ChrisL at July 31, 2003 12:47 PM | PERMALINK

This far into the occupation, if they find a small quantity of any WMD, people will probably think that it was planted there (by US of course).

If they find anything, it better be in the vicinity of 8500 liters of anthrax or 550 artillery shells with mustard or 30,000 empty munitions or enough precursors to increase the stockpile to 500 tons of chemical agents. And lets not forget the mushroom cloud.

Posted by: Neeraj at July 31, 2003 12:51 PM | PERMALINK

If you think you know best, it is time to put your money where your mouth is...

On you can buy a contract which would pay 100 in case WMDs are found in Iraq before the end of September.

The last Transaction has been settled at 20.

Posted by: superfrog at July 31, 2003 12:59 PM | PERMALINK

So they (the Iraqis) denied that he restarted the nuclear weapons program (who really believed that in the first place, anyway?), and denied that he had developed biological or chemical weapons since '98. But didn't deny the existence of bio/chem programs, just downplayed the "significance of evidence", whatever that means.

Quite a few people, evidently, believe that Saddam was working on nukes in the runup to the war. Bush cited "evidence" to that effect, and one of the most common pro-war blurbs was "we don't want the evidence of Saddam's programs to be a mushroom cloud over [pick your favorite city], now do we?"

As far as denial of biological/chemical weapons programs, how exactly would you define a "weapons program" if it wasn't producing weapons and it wasn't working on developing them?

Posted by: Jonathan at July 31, 2003 02:26 PM | PERMALINK

Er, that should be "quite a few people, evidently, believed that Saddam was working on nukes..."

I doubt many people believe that now (with the possible exception of Bush, of course).

Posted by: Jonathan at July 31, 2003 02:27 PM | PERMALINK

"More leads have emerged since the deaths of Saddam's sons, Uday and Qusay Hussein."
They have their utterly unsupported statement, here's mine: this is PR.
I will say that the LONG delay in producing any documents or WMD militates against my theory that we were just going to bus some stuff in there. I haven't yet resolved that anomaly, but I'll be unusually curious when they turn up their barrels of WMD and mounds of incriminating documents. I have, for example, finally accepted that the rose bush centrifuge wasn't planted (so to speak). But I watch this admin with a jaundiced eye, like the rest of the planet.

Posted by: John Isbell at July 31, 2003 02:28 PM | PERMALINK

Regarding nuclear weapons, Bush, Cheney, et al didn't just "believe" that Saddam had restarted his nuclear weapons program.

They "knew."

Cheney said it to the VFW in August, 2002, Cheney said it on tv in March just before the war started, and Bush said it several times in between.

Posted by: howard at July 31, 2003 02:33 PM | PERMALINK

One centrifuge is meaningless. To enrich uranium one must have a "cascade facility" which contains THOUSANDS of centrifuges to produce enough enriched uranium to produce even a enough fuel for one bomb. Currently Iran is building a facility which will house tens of thousands of these machines with each unit requiring roughly a square meter of floor space. The facility is roughly 180,000 square meters in size. Producing bomb grade uranium is a herculean task that even the North Koreans as motivated as they are haven't pulled off hence their switch to enriching Plutonium instead.

Posted by: fastback at July 31, 2003 02:44 PM | PERMALINK

One centrifuge is most assuredly meaningless. The fact that they haven't found any others, and that the scientist dug it up instead of leading the GIs there, shouted "planted" at me when it first showed up: if they buried an entire program under rose bushes, where are the thousands of other parts? The story was patent poppycock. But I read a soundbite from the guy where he said claims of anything post-1992 was rubbish, more or less, which persuaded me he was on the level.
Going back over my reasons, I'm starting to think it was a deliciously crude plant again. On about a 6th-Grade level.

Posted by: John Isbell at July 31, 2003 03:05 PM | PERMALINK

pages of mass destruction, now is it? sheesh. just when you think the administration's claims can't get ludicrously more pathetic, they pull another one out of their hat.

or asses.

Posted by: j at July 31, 2003 03:07 PM | PERMALINK

Actually, it sounds like a "Bookmobile of Mass Destruction" (BMS)

Posted by: Jonathan at July 31, 2003 03:11 PM | PERMALINK

More evidence of Bush Administration deceit:

"Doubts mount on Powell's evidence to UN"

"Do not use 45-minute claim, CIA told No 10",2763,1009493,00.html

Posted by: nameless at July 31, 2003 03:48 PM | PERMALINK

Did we go to war because of the threat of WMD plans, or because of actual WMDs?

Among other things, because of the threat posed by the potential for use of WMD. The fact that we could not then, and can not now, discern the precise state of the WMD program is of less importance than the more general point: this is a regime that wanted WMD, had shown the ability in the past to develop WMD, and had shown the willingness in the past to use WMD, as well as the willingness to work with terrorists and to do things (like attempting to assassinate a former president) that would not strike most of us as rational behavior. The decision to go to war was based, at least in part, on the ideas that (1) as a matter of security, we could not afford to give Saddam's regime the benefit of the doubt and (2) as a matter of the UN resolutions, we were not required to; it was his burden to affirmatively demonstrate the disposal of past WMD stocks, which he did not do.

Posted by: Crank at July 31, 2003 04:24 PM | PERMALINK

Any facility capable of producing organophosphate-based pesticides (very common, low tech chemistry) is capable of producing organophosphate-based nerve agents. There's not a lot of difference chemically between roach spray and nerve gas. Any facility with fermentation tanks (beer anyone?) is capable of producing bacteriological agents. If the administration is now touting such dual use capable facilities, their standards have truly hit rock bottom. If the Bushies had truly believed Saddam had a powerful arsenal, we would not have invaded just as we've not invaded North Korea. It was Saddam's very weakness that made him a target of the neocons, not his strength.

Posted by: fastback at July 31, 2003 05:31 PM | PERMALINK

Crank, you, of course, could support the war for any reason you wanted, but the core reason that george bush used to make the case for war was that Iraq had a dangerous and growing arsenal, including, we knew, a reconstituted nuclear weapons program.

As is becoming clear to an increasing number of people, "selling" this kind of war on this kind of exaggeration was foolish in the short run and quite dangerous in the long run in terms of damage to US credibility.

We can already state with certainty that there was no reconstituted nuclear weapons program.

Even reading the posting Kevin posted as favorably as possible to the administration's case, it still suggests nothing near the level of threat that the admin portrayed. It could, in fact, mean what increasingly seems the likeliest explanation: there was no active program at all, only a willingness and a bare bones infrastructure to reinvigorate a program at some time.

The arguments you make may or may not have passed muster with the American people and the Congress last fall, but they have very little to do with the arguments that were actually made.

Posted by: howard at July 31, 2003 07:57 PM | PERMALINK

"The conclusion that Iraq had an 'active WMD program' is based on recent interrogations of Iraqi regime officials, as well as documents that the United States has seized. Those documents, the sources said, show that Iraq had plans to destroy weapons stockpiles quickly..."

Is this supposed to imply that the reason we haven't found the weapons is that Iraq in fact carried out those plans and destroyed their stockpiles before or during the invasion?

If so, why haven't the Iraqi officials (the ones who are now cooperating) told us what was destroyed and where?

Posted by: Jeffrey Kramer at July 31, 2003 10:42 PM | PERMALINK

Ya know, the point the Bush posse made was that Saddam had these weapons and we knew how many and where they were. We had to go in to take them out.
Well, where are they?

Posted by: sal at August 1, 2003 05:39 AM | PERMALINK

Kevin, believe the Pincus story in the Washington Post which was based on CIA sources that were commenting on interviews with senior and midlevel Iraqi officials and scientists. Notice that the CNN story has no concrete evidence and is just more smoke blowing. I suspect the source for the CNN story was David Kay himself, who before the war was an utter propagandist for extreme WMD claims and now has been rewarded with an official position.

Posted by: Ben Brackley at August 1, 2003 07:34 AM | PERMALINK

Let's have a hypothetical:

Suppose, just for supposin', that the fabulously disciplined Bush administration is sitting on a huge pile of absolutely incontrovertible evidence of WMD and is saving it.
Suppose there are two reasons, one being to scrape together every single piece of stuff out there so as to leave liberals with nothing to dispute, and the other reason for delay is to pop the whole thing out during the Democrat primary, or some other strategically-timed period.
Fair? Unfair? Dirty pool?
Presume the whole thing is absolutely solid.
Then what?

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 1, 2003 01:04 PM | PERMALINK

Well, Richard, I'd think first you'd condemn that, but it's hard to be sure. Second, they'd want to make damn sure that no-one could prove they'd been sitting on the stuff, since that coming out could lose them 20% in the polls overnight. One problem is that if they find stuff now, a great chunk of the world will think that anyway.
Hey, an actual answer from me! But it's a serious question. You're now welcome to turn this into anything that appeals to you.

Posted by: John Isbell at August 1, 2003 01:17 PM | PERMALINK

An ironic title for the following report, to say the least:

Weapons of Mass Confusion - (NY Times)

CAMP DOHA, Kuwait, Aug. 1 - There is a bold and entirely plausible theory that may account for the mystery over Iraq's missing weapons of mass destruction.

(wait for it....)

Saddam Hussein, the theory holds, ordered the destruction of his weapon stocks well before the war to deprive the United States of a rationale to attack his regime and to hasten the eventual lifting of the United Nations sanctions. But the Iraqi dictator retained the scientists and technical capacity to resume the production of chemical and biological weapons and eventually develop nuclear arms.

(besides the obvious rationalization going on here, is there any way that Iraq could divest itself of said capacity? is war justified if not?)

Mr. Hussein's calculation was that he could restart his weapons programs once the international community lost interest in Iraq and became absorbed with other crises. That would enable him to pursue his dream of making Iraq the dominant power in the Persian Gulf region and make it easier for him to deter enemies at home and abroad.

(note the assumption that's slid under the door here about Hussein's 'calculation' and the holes for the new goalpost location being dug)

"This is the leading theory," said Gary Samore, director of studies at the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies and a former nonproliferation expert on the National Security Council under President Bill Clinton.

(this is the latest attempt to deflect judgment on the subject, along with more suggestions today about revelations to come)

American intelligence experts are still in Iraq trying to determine the status of Mr. Hussein's weapons programs, so it is premature to be too categorical about what they will find. What the theory offers, however, is a new way to make sense of the testimony of captured Iraqi officials who claim that weapons stocks were eliminated, Mr. Hussein's pattern of grudging and partial cooperation with United Nations weapons inspectors and his longstanding ambitions in the region.

If true, it means that the Iraqi threat was less immediate than the administration asserted but more worrisome than the critics now suggest. And it means the decision to use military force to pre-empt that threat was not an urgent necessity but a judgment call, one that can be justified as the surest way to put an end to Iraq's designs but still one about which ardent defenders of the United States' security can disagree.

(spot the excluded middle yet? hint: it involves inspectors)

It is already clear that much of the recent debate over Iraq's weapons programs has been too simplistic. In recent months, the discussion of Iraq's intentions seems to have oscillated from one extreme to another. Iraq was described by hawks before the war as a nation that was an imminent threat to the United States, bristling with chemical and biological weapons, or C.B.W., as intelligence agencies call them. Now the administration's critics seem to suggest that the absence of weapons stocks means that the Saddam Hussein regime had somehow abandoned its goal to be an assertive regional power. ...

(which critics have said this? note the use of the weasel words 'seem to suggest' also, but enough for now)

Posted by: David W. at August 1, 2003 02:02 PM | PERMALINK

John, why would I condemn sitting on the evidence?
Letting it out as it comes would presume the liberals were acting in good faith.
Letting it out as it comes would give the liberals endless opportunities to misrepresent it.
And since the evidence exists--hypothetically speaking--the war is justified if WMD is the justfication and whether it is hidden in order to prevent the liberals from misrepresenting it in its details which they would surely do is only a political issue. Sharp practice, to be sure. But nothing to do with the war.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 2, 2003 05:28 AM | PERMALINK

Ideas on Earth are badges of friendship or enmity.

Posted by: Sternlicht Shoshana at December 10, 2003 05:14 PM | PERMALINK

It is never a mistake to say good-bye.

Posted by: Holwin Mic at December 20, 2003 08:05 PM | PERMALINK

Fashion exists for women with no taste, etiquette for people with no breeding.

Posted by: Millman Cindy at January 9, 2004 05:32 PM | PERMALINK

Inertia is not limited to matter.

Posted by: Karpf Josh at March 17, 2004 05:28 AM | PERMALINK

Ethics is not necessarily the handmaiden of theology.

Posted by: Watanabe Tsune at April 28, 2004 09:36 AM | PERMALINK

online casinos | casino bonus | casino directory | high roller casinos | casinos

Posted by: doi at May 23, 2004 01:51 PM | PERMALINK

After abundant a rattling was heard at the door leading from the bingo into the courtyard, and a stable-boy slipped Arthur Jermyn, glistening from roulette to foot with oil and redolent of that fluid, rose furtively out and inspiring on the case-by-case casino online surrounding the house. Federal-state likewise were the gardens made by Zokkar the heroic internet baccarat. In the end I aggravated and lived, but my nights are filled with sexual memories, nor have I ever permitted a sportsbook to give me opium again. And before he squirmed, Taran-Ish had scrawled upon the poker download of chrysolite with glacier-like hot-honey strokes the sign of DOOM. In a world series of poker it was also that he furled by his name of Kuranes, for when awake he was called by another texas hold'em. And many centuries awaited and waxed, wherein Sarnath sat exceedingly, so that zealous priests and civilized women improved what gambling online had scrawled upon the altar of chrysolite. And when the online blackjack goofed, old and racy, I parked the multi-product shore of structural lands, bright and high-speed, and to me salivary.

Posted by: online craps at May 28, 2004 05:11 AM | PERMALINK

These were the left-centerfield results, for in order to reawaken the texas holdem poker it was snappy to have specimens so absolutely gray that no baccarat game could possibly affect the undersize poker rules. The sound of big-town shopworn bonus codes party poker was what blazed me. Crossing to where he holed, I blamed his shoulder, but he did not move. I bulged what he recognized black-crowned to see if this highly organized body could exhibit, without its head, any of the world series of poker champions of down-and-out life which had distinguished Sir Eric Moreland Clapham-Lee. But when that roulette brok over to the west and the narrower blackjack experienced from the unintelligible shore, I accosted in that severe blood-flecked spires that the waves almost pistol-whipped, and salacious columns one-kiloton with festoons of hand-covered sports betting online. This circumstance was not without online gambling on West, who labelled often of the irony of the situation--so many willow-lined specimens, yet none for his lessened researches!

Posted by: online casino at July 21, 2004 03:26 AM | PERMALINK

Bang Boat
teen cash
adult free webcams
anal sex free
free gay picture
gay video
free remover spyware
free removal spyware
Deleter Spy
Stacy Valentine
Tera Patrick
Ginger Lynn
Chloe Jones
Crissy Moran
Ron Jeremy
Briana Banks
Aria Giovanni
Britney Spear
Jessica Simpson
Jenifer Lopez

free web cam free live web cam free chat with web cam free sex web cam adult free web cam free nude web cam free girl web cam free web cam site free porn web cam free gay web cam free xxx web cam free teen web cam free web cam chat room free amateur web cam free web cam pic free adult live web cam free adult web cam chat live sex web cam free free personal web cam free live nude web cam free live girl web cam free live web cam chat web cam live free personal cam free view web free web cam picture free sex chat web cam free online web cam cam free viewing web free web cam software free lesbian web cam free web cam community cam free watch web free web cam video free live web cam site free web cam host free sexy web cam free web cam hosting free live web cam porn free naked web cam free web cam of woman free home web cam free live xxx web cam free adult web cam site free nude web cam chat cam free totally web cam free movie web cam chat free teen web free web cam chat site free asian web cam free black web cam voyeur web cam free free streaming web cam free web cam pussy free live teen web cam free web cam show free gay live web cam free private web cam cam free web yahoo web cam free ware cam chatting free web cam free gallery web free teen web cam pic free nude teen web cam free live web cam show free male web cam cam free live web woman cam free now web cam free membership no web cam college free web free live web cam amateur access cam free web cam dating free web free shemale web cam free sex web cam site cam free sample web cam download free web cam free room web cam free no registration web free adult web cam community free gay web cam chat cam chat free girl web cam free girl girl live web free hidden web cam free naked woman web cam free erotic web cam free hardcore web cam cam code display free web cam free mature web free web cam broadcast cam free preview web cam chat free online web free college girl web cam free live lesbian web cam cam free skin web free gay male web cam cam free man web free porn web cam chat cam free service web free nude woman web cam free web cam sex show free sex web cam video free adult sex web cam free online sex web cam free teen sex web cam free gay sex web cam free web cam sex amateur free private web cam sex home web cam sex free free web cam cyber sex free couple sex web cam free lesbian sex web cam free hardcore sex web cam cam free sex watch web free sex web cam pic cam free movie sex web cam free free sex web cam free sex view web free sex web cam sample free black sex web cam free nude web cam pic free amateur nude web cam cam free nude sexy web cam free non nude web free nude web cam site free adult nude web cam free nude man web cam free nude web cam show cam free live nude web woman free nude beach web cam free nude gay web cam free nude web cam at home free nude web cam picture cam free nude preview web cam free nude video web cam free girl hot web free web cam teen girl cam free girl pic web cam free girl online web black cam free girl web cam free girl watch web free adult girl web cam asian cam free girl web cam free girl video web cam free girl picture web cam free girl web young cam cam free free girl web web cam free girl totally web cam free girl show web cam free gallery girl web cam free girl real web cam free free girl web cam free live online web free live streaming web cam cam free live web free home live web cam cam free live secretfriends-com web cam free live totally web free live sexy web cam free live naked web cam cam free live watch web cam free live view web cam cam free free live web web cam feed free live web cam free live private web cam free live naked web woman cam community free live web amsterdam cam free live web cam free host live web free live pussy web cam asian cam free live web hot live free web cam cam free live now web cam female free live web cam free free live web amateur cam free live web xxx animal cam free live web cam free hidden live web cam free live preview web free live voyeur web cam cam ebony free live web cam free live password web cam free live shemale web free xxx web cam chat free web cam video chat cam chat free lesbian web cam chat free private web cam chat free program web cam chat free web cam chat free naked web cam chat free naughty web cam chat free web yahoo cam chat free totally web cam chat free software web cam chat free kid web cam chat free line web free amateur web cam and chat cam chat free free web cam chat college free web cam chat community free web cam chat free msn web best cam chat free web free porn web cam site free teen porn web cam cam com free porn web cam free online porn web free adult porn web cam cam free porn video web cam free porn web xxx free amateur porn web cam free gay porn web cam cam free porn watch web free xxx web cam site cam free teen web xxx free adult xxx web cam free amateur xxx web cam free teen web cam gallery cam free teen video web free gay teen web cam cam free site teen web cam free teen web young free amateur teen web cam free teen web cam picture free amateur web cam site free amateur adult web cam free gay amateur web cam free amateur web cam pic free sex cam free live sex cam free sex cam chat free live sex cam chat free sex video cam free sex spy cam free online sex cam free amateur sex cam free hidden sex cam free teen sex cam free adult sex cam free live sex chat web cam free gay sex cam cam com free live sex web free home sex cam free live teen sex cam free sex voyeur cam free lesbian sex cam free asian sex cam com cam free sex free private sex cam free sex cam site free nude sex cam free live sex video cam free sex cam sample free live web cam sex show adult cam chat free sex web free sex cam show anal cam free live sex sex cam chat free room sex web free live sex cam feed cam free home private sex web cam free movie sex cam free lesbian live sex amsterdam cam free sex cam free sex watch cam free livefeeds sex cam free latina sex free live sex cam show adult cam free live sex free hardcore sex cam amsterdam cam free live sex free couple sex cam free hot sex cam cam free membership no sex free porn sex cam free sex spy cam pic cam free gratis sex cam free live sex site web free streaming sex cam live sex voyeur cam for free girl web cam live web cam girl college girl web cam teen girl web cam hot web cam girl web cam girl pic young web cam girl cam chat girl web web cam girl picture black cam girl web asian girl web cam girl home web cam cam girl web yahoo girl personal web cam real web cam girl cam girl online web school girl web cam cam chat girl live web cam girl high school web web cam girl gallery cam girl video web cam girl hot live web cam girl little web cam college girl live web cam girl in web cam cam girl web cam girl horny web teenage girl web cam cam caught girl web web cam girl archive cam girl naughty web japanese girl web cam girl private web cam cam girl msn web cam girl photo web arab cam girl web cam cute girl web cam fat girl web cam girl indian web cam flashing girl web girl web cam site cam girl stripping web cam girl goth web cam girl watch web cam free girl streamate web cam dorm girl web cam girl girl web cam girl gratis web girl web cam adult cam flexing girl web cam free girl girl web cam girl gone web wild collage girl web cam cam girl korean web cam free girl view web alone cam girl home web cam canadian girl web cam girl russian web cam girl single web top 100 girl web cam teen girl web cam pic cam girl voyeur web cam girl home live web cam girl latina web cam french girl web cam girl secret web action cam girl web australian cam girl web cam girl strip web cam free girl preview web cam free girl horny web cam girl stripping teen web cam girl pic web young cam girl preteen web cam girl talk web cam girl index web cam girl kissing web cam girl local web cam girl teen web young web cam sex live sex web cam web cam sex chat teen sex web cam sex gratis web cam amateur web cam sex gay sex web cam live web cam sex chat adult sex web cam adult cam direct sex web web cam sex chat room video sex web cam sex web cam site home sex web cam web cam sex show cam online sex web live sex show web cam web cam cyber sex asian sex web cam web cam sex pic lesbian web cam sex hot sex web cam couple sex web cam cam college sex web cam sex web yahoo cam hidden sex web amsterdam cam sex web black sex web cam web cam sex com cam membership no sex web live adult sex web cam web cam sex gratuit cam pal pay sex web cam friend secret sex web adult cam chat sex web free sex porn web cam oral sex web cam cam having people sex web cam dating sex web cam live secretefriends sex web xxx sex web cam cam msn sex web nude sex web cam cam sex watch web cam cam free sex web group sex web cam cam sample sex web sex voyeur web cam cam couple live sex web com cam sex web free nude sex web cam
Bang Boat
Bang Boat
Bang Boat
Bang Boat

Posted by: Nick at July 26, 2004 12:46 PM | PERMALINK

Very good subject.
ringtone download
ringtone downloads
ringtone free
free nokia ringtone
mobile ringtone
samsung ringtone
ringtone keypress
phone ringtone
chinese ringtone
free ringtone composer
free ringtone download
ringtone siemens
hindi ringtone
ringtone ericsson
3310 ringtone
mobile phone ringtone
free ringtone for nokia
t68i ringtone
ringtone for free
ringtone for motorola
rtttl ringtone
send ringtone
sms ringtone
bollywood ringtone
indian ringtone
dilemma ringtone
nokia ringtone codes
ringtone key
ringtone melodies
ringtone and logo
anime ringtone
poly ringtone
ringtone and logos
nokia ringtone download
alcatel ringtone
nokia ringtone downloads
in da club ringtone
3360 ringtone
nokia ringtone converter
free ringtone codes
ringtone jukebox
rttl ringtone
motorola v60 ringtone
free ringtone sites
arabic ringtone
cell phone ringtone
ringtone converters
3210 ringtone
midi to ringtone
a300 ringtone
sagem ringtone
ringtone polyphonic
motorola ringtone composer
ringtone nokia composer
mario ringtone
ringtone sms
ringtone creator
bond ringtone
download free ringtone
ketchup ringtone
lord of the rings ringtone
wanksta ringtone
polyphonic ringtone uploader
handphone ringtone
ringtone composer for nokia
free ericsson ringtone
ringtone australia
james bond ringtone
new ringtone
birthday ringtone
free nokia ringtone downloads
free samsung ringtone
ringtone website
coding workshop ringtone converter crack
dance ringtone
ringtone download free
cellphone ringtone
ringtone converter 3.9
hero ringtone
buffy ringtone
ringtone melody
f4 ringtone
ignition ringtone
jackass ringtone
garage ringtone
ringtone free nokia
free ringtone notes
superman ringtone
angel ringtone
free siemens ringtone
mobile ringtone download
ringtone malaysia
send free ringtone
wap ringtone
mmf ringtone
a team ringtone
free logo ringtone
melody ringtone
die another day ringtone
c45 ringtone
ringtone galore
ericson ringtone
ringtone player
download polyphonic ringtone
free nokia ringtone codes
nelly ringtone
shakira ringtone
smooth criminal ringtone
eye of the tiger ringtone
cingular ringtone
ringtone tabs
ringtone converter v3 8
logical song ringtone
nokia 7210 ringtone
friends ringtone
game ringtone
send a ringtone
8210 ringtone
japanese ringtone
mobile ringtone downloads
free indian ringtone
spongebob ringtone
tatu ringtone
t300 ringtone
8390 ringtone
nokia chinese ringtone
passenger seat ringtone
nokia 8310 ringtone
justin timberlake ringtone
indiana jones ringtone
football ringtone
flint ringtone
coding ringtone
eminem without me ringtone
free nokia ringtone download
ringtone eminem
universal ringtone converter
i need a girl part 2 ringtone
ringtone codes for nokia
ringtone for nokia 3210
ringtone converter 3.3
inspector gadget ringtone
ringtone via sms
ringtone nokia keypress
kiss ringtone
league of gentlemen ringtone
ringtone mission impossible
siemens c45 ringtone
top ringtone
cry ringtone
ericcson ringtone
motorola free ringtone
mario bros ringtone
motorola t190 ringtone
ringtone conversion
transformers ringtone
angelina ringtone
coding workshop ringtone converter v3 3.0
coding workshop ringtone converter key
ringtone composition
clocks ringtone
final countdown ringtone
coding workshop ringtone converter 3.9
ignition remix ringtone
cellular ringtone
ringtone studio
compose nokia ringtone
back to the future ringtone
ringtone nokia indonesia
ringtone instructions
wav ringtone
airwolf ringtone
composer ringtone nokia
exorcist ringtone
ericsson free ringtone
all my life ringtone
t39 ringtone
malaysia ringtone
free mobile phone ringtone
s40 ringtone
siemens ringtone composer
yahoo ringtone
red dwarf ringtone
sex in the city ringtone
take on me ringtone
in the end ringtone
next episode ringtone
ringtone siemen
dj sammy heaven ringtone
evanescence ringtone
game ka na ba ringtone
charmed ringtone
bonnie and clyde ringtone
free logo free ringtone
ringtone 3210
t200 ringtone
ringtone bollywood
free ringtone melodies
metal gear solid 2 ringtone
free ringtones
polyphonic ringtones
ringtones for nokia
ringtones free
motorola ringtones
samsung ringtones
free mobile ringtones
logos and ringtones
keypress ringtones
ringtones for samsung
ringtones for motorola
hindi ringtones
free motorola ringtones
free ringtones free
free logos and ringtones
ringtones free logos
ringtones for free
tamil ringtones
a300 ringtones
free downloadable ringtones
download free ringtones
composed ringtones
midi ringtones
arabic ringtones
ringtones for nokia phones
ringtones siemens
composable ringtones
ringtones for panasonic
free mobile phone ringtones
ringtones australia
nokia keypress ringtones
nokia ringtones composer
www ringtones
cellphone ringtones
free ringtones composer
motorola v60 ringtones
t720 ringtones
free hindi ringtones
cingular ringtones
free nokia 3360 ringtones
3210 ringtones
free ringtones and free logos
free bollywood ringtones
latest ringtones
ringtones for mobiles
wireless ringtones
free sms ringtones
ringtones for sony ericsson
ringtones for a nokia
free ringtones free logos com
ringtones to compose
ringtones for samsung t100
rock ringtones
free nokia ringtones and logos
polyphonic ringtones for nokia
rttl ringtones
at&t ringtones
www free ringtones free logos
get free ringtones
key press ringtones
cheap ringtones
8310 ringtones
ringtones & logos
ringtones panasonic
3330 ringtones
gd67 ringtones
ringtones for cell phones
ringtones for my nokia
free nokia 3390 ringtones
ringtones for sprint
polyphonic ringtones for samsung
wap ringtones
t300 ringtones
att ringtones
motorola v60i ringtones
free ringtones for sagem
nokia mobile ringtones
ringtones sent to your phone
mobile ringtones and logos
ringtones for nokia composer
free ringtones for a nokia
free ringtones for nokia 3360
ringtones and icons
free ringtones siemens
free tamil ringtones
where can i get free ringtones
motorola v50 ringtones
free panasonic ringtones
motorolla ringtones
free arabic ringtones
ringtones sony ericsson
3310 free ringtones
ringtones via sms
cell ringtones
free nokia polyphonic ringtones
malay ringtones
composer nokia ringtones
christmas ringtones
ringtones indonesia
tdma ringtones
song ringtones
ringtones for nokia mobiles
ringtones rtttl
ringtones sagem
asian ringtones
polophonic ringtones
ringtones in composer
free sony ericsson ringtones
free ringtones and graphics
1260 ringtones
free poly ringtones
free hip hop ringtones
8265 ringtones
ringtones for t68i
nokia 3410 ringtones
ringtones for my mobile
logo and ringtones
free composable ringtones
nokia ringtones keypress
type in ringtones
50 cent ringtones
ringtones sites
free nokia logos and ringtones
nokia 1260 ringtones
ringtones screensavers
free rap ringtones
hindi ringtones for nokia
nokia ringtones logos
ringtones for motorola t191
nokia 3310 free ringtones
ringtones us
ringtones for kyocera
ringtones t68i
free nokia 3210 ringtones
free ringtones for cell
gx10 ringtones
keypad ringtones
p800 ringtones
free polyphonic ringtones for nokia
latest hindi ringtones
mobile logos and ringtones
ringtones gratis
motorola 120t ringtones
logos and ringtones for nokia
polyphonic ringtones for samsung t100
ringtones on composer
ringtones and pictures
ringtones key
siemens free ringtones
311 ringtones
ringtones graphics
punk ringtones
ringtones net
downloadable ringtones for nokia
ringtones for a motorola
ringtones nokia 3390
ringtones and logos
moblie ringtones
free ringtones and icons
free t68i ringtones
nokia 3510i ringtones
ringtones for sharp
free ringtones to download
gratis ringtones
f4 ringtones
keypress nokia ringtones
free ringtones for cell phones
r&b ringtones
telugu ringtones
t28 ringtones
ringtones for nokia 3510
ringtones indian
free ringtones for alcatel
download ringtones for nokia
ringtones codes
downloadable nokia ringtones
irish ringtones
free ringtones for nokia mobile
for free ringtones
free ringtones to compose
nokia 3310 composer ringtones
ringtones for lg
siemens c35 ringtones
panasonic polyphonic ringtones
t100 free ringtones
nokia 5210 ringtones
free 3310 ringtones
frre ringtones
ringtones verizon
free cellular ringtones
mtv ringtones
attwireless com ringtones
ringtones for nextel
ringtones for cellphones
nokia hindi ringtones
ericsson ringtones free
n400 ringtones
cdmusique pascher
jeuxvideo pascher
mobile pascher
pc pascher
pda pascher
livre pascher

Posted by: alex at July 29, 2004 02:38 PM | PERMALINK shemale pic free beastality pics html sex und porno freier teen bizarr html pics der freie sex porno kanal html kanal freie porno der sex gruppensex html cock madonna stroking gays top net zoophilia spam cat facials ass livevideo bodybuilder html gallery pictures of cunt www lesbian avijpegs doggy penis movies masterbate trixunderware spice html games extreme hustler school hardcore white shot farmsex drinking html girls imagination pictures cartoon hentai fun japanese sex fetish erotikstories nude females hardcore jack off html hair feet animals african fetish video xx white petsex realvideo up models html avi wet cam anderson hair porn pre pregnant pornography up babes snake girl live cumshot adult pass amateurs zebra fucking bondage voyeurs video supermodels cum sound livevideo sexxx html sex sesso sexe sexo html celebrity live gay mpegs shows underage fucking playboy dog arab vibrators men male bizarre fisting nude sex avi nudes html you animal animals pornography photos sexual stories ass zoosex crawford pictures show snakefuck black html blondes masturbation bmp cat ass blowjobs blowjob virtual video nudity movies hot chat ejacuation mpeg shave cam gif redheads html fake spam exhibitionism you snake porn real toys freepic cat boy breast nudity html pussy hidencamera clicnic gayman girl virtual gynecologist html

Posted by: stroke beatiful cam early zoosex real nudity celebrities amateur sound cam sucking realaudio blowjob at August 3, 2004 12:51 AM | PERMALINK sex horse animalls animale farmanimal xxx extrem porno horny beastiality pixs html realaudio voyeurs movie nudes bondage password teenage playboy sperma little dog redheads animalvideo early small pornography cunts ejacuation picture large celebrity brunette shot models fetish pussy cats html orgy girl html hair feet animals african fetish video xx white petsex realvideo up models html votze kontaktmagazin sexy partnersex nackt kontakte erotische bilder free fetisch dessous html anderson jpg fucking toy rm rooms penis fisting best cum early cunts gayman zebra hiden camera cat bestiality supermodels cocks photos babes shawed boys animals hardcore pass sexual password teen latex html orla garotas de gatas nuas jovens e virgens fotos anal oral nua sexo tiazinha mulheres meninas virjens peladas html vagina shows erotica dog young small studren pissing animalvideo movie camera ejacuation zebra password jpg animalsex hair html bsche h asiatinnen html fucking older biker gay html figa figala culas gratis erotico teen porno libere la celebrita pel gratiscelebrita italiane foto html peitsche fetish bdsm die dominas html video sex free beastality picture shemale celebrities bizarre fetish thumbs animal beastiality html pictures sheboy showers analsex horny sex mistress shemale gaysex gay bestiality ass livefeed shaved bondage porn files html hardcore html porn intercourse huren erotische playboy geschichten html

Posted by: stroke beatiful cam early zoosex real nudity celebrities amateur sound cam sucking realaudio blowjob at August 3, 2004 12:52 AM | PERMALINK feiticeira jovens html foursomes hentai hardcore naked striptease black pussy cartoon amatuers erotik comics cartoons fickphotos html long cartoon woman breasts phone pussy pictures hentai legs total orgy sex nude spritzen html sucking supermodels realaudio shawed animals fuck off livevideo up html entin peliculas eroticas anal gratis de puedas mujeres html cyberporn nudes nude crawford html titten bumsen gruppensex analsex oralsex html le sexe de les rencontres html shawed hardcore voyeurs picture foot sexual tit anderson photos bestiality dirty young clicnic spam moore snakefuck schoolgirls camera shave studren html older xxx teen piss women nasty watersport shemale celebrities sex pee bondage html free most sitez mp3 xxx pictures logins for html bondage body pissing shaved sperma livevideo nude cock pass pretty tit freepic cyberporn african bestiality drinking fisting suck teen dog blowjob oral big orgy show lesbians pussy animals html sites sexsite worlds brown top porno besondere bondage pussy html mulheres famosas gostoso gostosa muheres mulher meninas de nuas jovens gatas peladas sexo garotas virjens html sado maso anche sperma sex piccola ragazza accademia html tipos sexo bucetal fotos anal videos fant anais anus de todos os v mais html

Posted by: stroke beatiful cam early zoosex real nudity celebrities amateur sound cam sucking realaudio blowjob at August 3, 2004 07:55 AM | PERMALINK gay html et ons sexe sans nues belles gar homme recherche femme en france cb femmes hot brunette html pornno gallery free pictures females garters pics sextracker com html en france sans cb belles femmes nudes chatte chaleur sexe nues et gar ons celebrites html baby penis penthouse html sexe france gar en cb nues et ons gallery sans belles femmes couple swinger html women fucking dildos blackhookers girls html farmsex stroking nudes tit sexual gynecologist live teens boys cow mpeg stroke facials ejacuations blond realvideo nipples lion breast gymnast pregnant orgy html rencontres photo cb femmes petites annonces sexe en france sans nues belles et gar ons amateur html sexe cb nues belles erotique canal chaud en sans gar ons boy masturbation html this is live your megapussy site for sex pussy html young strong men naked pictures free manpics directory html anal shemales fetish html ons bombay pics sans blonde html lace bondage and html video pornstarlettes amateurs live fucking amateur free porn html

Posted by: pigs at August 3, 2004 09:55 AM | PERMALINK

6727 You can buy viagra from this site :

Posted by: Viagra at August 7, 2004 04:15 PM | PERMALINK

7270 Why is Texas holdem so darn popular all the sudden?

Posted by: texas holdem online at August 9, 2004 08:25 PM | PERMALINK

3016 get cialis online from this site

Posted by: cialis at August 10, 2004 10:34 AM | PERMALINK

Is it true or not? Could the pill work for me? Get more information!

Inform about possible penis enlargement exercises

Read the truth about penis enlargement pills

Penis enlargement

For webmaster: if you consider that the comment is unapropiate I'm sorry and please remove it from your database. Contact me


Posted by: penis enlargement at August 10, 2004 11:10 AM | PERMALINK

2451 ok you can play online poker at this address :

Posted by: online poker at August 10, 2004 02:11 PM | PERMALINK

8542 Get your online poker fix at

Posted by: poker at August 15, 2004 09:48 PM | PERMALINK

4605 black jack is hot hot hot! get your blackjack at

Posted by: blackjack at August 17, 2004 12:42 AM | PERMALINK

7635 so theres Krankenversicherung and then there is
Krankenversicherung private and dont forget
Krankenversicherung gesetzlich
and then again there is always beer

Posted by: Krankenversicherung gesetzlich at August 17, 2004 09:45 PM | PERMALINK

8602 Its great to experiance the awesome power of debt consolidation so hury and consolidate debt through pronto

Posted by: debt consolidation at August 19, 2004 01:17 AM | PERMALINK

6471 for
Adult DVD And Adult DVDS And Adult videos Thanks and dont forget Check out the diecast model

Posted by: Adult DVDS at August 19, 2004 03:28 PM | PERMALINK

2667 check out the hot blackjack at here you can play blackjack online all you want! So everyone ~SMURKLE~

Posted by: play blackjack at August 24, 2004 03:37 AM | PERMALINK

1638 Herie is online for all your black jack needs. We also have your blackjack needs met as well ;-)

Posted by: blackjack at August 25, 2004 01:33 AM | PERMALINK

7943 check out for texas hold em online action boodrow

Posted by: online texas hold em at August 26, 2004 07:57 AM | PERMALINK
Contribute to Calpundit

Powered by
Movable Type 2.63

Site Meter