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July 28, 2003

DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS....Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst has broken his promise to abide by the tradition that it takes a two-thirds majority to debate a bill in the Texas Senate. What a surprise. I always thought conservatives were supposed to cherish traditions, like the one that says redistricting is done once per decade, for example, but they seem rather unfond of tradition these days.

Anyway, leaving the state to prevent a quorum is a Texas tradition, and since Governor Rick Perry has called yet another special redistricting session and Dewhurst has thrown in his lot with the Tom DeLay brigade, the Democrats have all decamped to Albuquerque.

It's not just California that's having all the fun these days.

Posted by Kevin Drum at July 28, 2003 03:13 PM | TrackBack


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This is, of course, the Democrats' fault. If they'd do their duty and just stop disagreeing, then Republicans wouldn't have to redistrict completely off-schedule and change the standing rules of the Senate to get this plan through. Why can't the Democrats just accept that opposition to this plan can't be tolerated?

Posted by: jesse at July 28, 2003 03:35 PM | PERMALINK

try again, fail again, fail better next time.

Posted by: clint at July 28, 2003 03:38 PM | PERMALINK

Wow...I never thought they'd actually run, given that they all have jobs and families and such. I wonder how long they can hold out? Perry can keep calling special sessions ad nauseam. I wonder if the state has appealed the judge's ruling that forbade law enforcement from dragging them back into session?

Posted by: PaulB at July 28, 2003 03:38 PM | PERMALINK

Anyway, it was not exactly a surprise that Dewhurst was going to break this tradition if they called another session. That's been known for several days now.

Posted by: PaulB at July 28, 2003 03:40 PM | PERMALINK

Damn, we suck. A thousand apologies from depp in the heart of Texas that this has to remain in the national news at all.

If it's any consolation, Texans as a whole don't support this repeating string of asinine, never-ending, Tom Delay-ego-stroking, special sessions.

Posted by: Norbizness at July 28, 2003 04:02 PM | PERMALINK

According to recent debate on this board, 2/3 requirements are awful in California. I wonder if the argumentative difference is all about which party is in the minority?

Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw at July 28, 2003 04:02 PM | PERMALINK

According to recent debate on this board, 2/3 requirements are awful in California. I wonder if the argumentative difference is all about which party is in the minority?

Probably, in part. In my case, though, there is a big difference between a "filibuster"-ish 2/3 rule that applies to all bills to prevent consideration, and having a special 2/3 rule that applies in both houses only to the budget, for final passage.

Posted by: cmdicely at July 28, 2003 04:14 PM | PERMALINK

A party that is confident, sure of its mission, secure in its political niche, wouldn't need to resort to these low and desperate redistricting measures. The way the GOP governs reveals that they know their time is short....

Posted by: peter jung at July 28, 2003 04:17 PM | PERMALINK

There's also a distinction between a perennial obligation to the state, such as a budget, and an activity that seems less about obligations to the state and more about profit to one's party...

Posted by: Anarch at July 28, 2003 04:31 PM | PERMALINK

Good for the dems. If the situation were reversed the Republicans would high tail it too. They need to fix the rules or accept the consequences.

Posted by: M. L. Foster at July 28, 2003 04:34 PM | PERMALINK

According to recent debate on this board, 2/3 requirements are awful in California. I wonder if the argumentative difference is all about which party is in the minority?

No, it about changing the rules mid-stream. Whether or not you like the 2/3 rule is an aside - from what I understand the 2/3 rule is a tradition, and the Republicans are doing away with the rule because they can't press thier agenda with it in place.

Not unlike the national Republicans and the filibuster rule. They had no problems using it against others, but don’t like when it’s used againt them.

Posted by: Henry at July 28, 2003 04:50 PM | PERMALINK

The 2/3 requirement in California is MUCH MORE than a tradition. It is a part of the constitution. If it is merely a Texas tradition, I don't see how one could complain about the 2/3 California rule without suggesting that you would change it if you could. A tradition doesn't typically have the force of a state constitution, so it is more easily changed.

If you have read me before you will know that I think governments need to be more attentive to traditions. So on that basis I decry the Texas change. What I don't understand is why you guys think it is bad.

Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw at July 28, 2003 05:01 PM | PERMALINK

The Republicans are betting the farm on permanent majority status (or at least---long enough for memories to fade). They are doing everything they can to grab power away from the minority party, in many cases without even pretending to be consistent. Another example: Orrin Hatch cracking down on Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who presented a united opposition:


Hatch, as Chair, ruled to silence the Democrats, taking a position exactly opposite to one he took when he was in the minority. "I was wrong," he declared, not indicating if he may be wrong yet again in the future should he be in the minority again.

from The Daily Page Forum

Posted by: Daryl McCullough at July 28, 2003 05:51 PM | PERMALINK

One of my in-laws is tied in to Texas politics...a colleague of his reported that there is a guy standing across the street from the Texas Governor's office (or it could be one of the other Texas gov't buildings, I'm not sure) holding up a sign that reads

"Rick Perry is Tom DeLay's BITCH"

The truth hurts, don't it?

Posted by: Mikey at July 28, 2003 05:53 PM | PERMALINK

PaulB, the Democrats have said that they can stay the month of this special session, and I have no doubt that the Texas Democrats can continue to pay their expenses for as long as required. I'll be happy to contribute.

As for the Rangers, the previous Judge has declared that the Texas Department of Public Safety cannot enforce a ruling of the Speaker fo the House, and the Rangers are one of the four branches of the DPS.

Besides, the Rangers have no authority outside of Texas, and New Mexico has a Democratic Governor and Attorney General. The only thing the legal decision has an effect on is whether the Democrats can stay in Texas and not be dragged to the Capital. Once outside of Texas, they are safe.

Posted by: Rick B at July 28, 2003 06:17 PM | PERMALINK

it's not just changing the rules in midstream, its breaking promises about it. The Light Gov made a flat statement that he would honor the 2/3 rule, apparently thinking that the Dem's could not hold. When he did, lo and behold, just like Hatch, he finds out he misspoke and only meant that he committed himself for the current session -- and this with Governor "Good Hair" Perry waiting in the wings with a fill in the blank special session . . .

Posted by: Claude Muncey at July 28, 2003 06:32 PM | PERMALINK

Some alert poster over at Dailykos pointed out the proclamation ordering the special session has the wrong date - June 28, 2003. Well, at least the document over on talkingpointsmemo:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/gov.proc.7.28.03.pdf

Amusing.

Posted by: squiddy at July 28, 2003 06:38 PM | PERMALINK

RickB, thanks for the update. I'm aware of the limitations on Texas state law enforcement. That's why they couldn't round up the House Democrats who engaged in this tactic earlier this year.

The reason I was surprised isn't the expenses, so much, as it is that these people all have other jobs, family, friends, and so on. More than just their daily expenses are involved. For some of them, it may well be their livelihoods. And, of course, Perry can continue to call special sessions for as long as he wants. I can see the Democrats doing this once, but doing it over and over and over again?

That's why it would be nice to have a definitive ruling from the Texas State Supreme Court that law enforcement personnel cannot drag members of Congress back into session. If that were the case, then the members could stay home, go to their jobs, be with their families. The breaking of the quorum would have absolutely no ill effect on them.

Posted by: PaulB at July 28, 2003 08:39 PM | PERMALINK

Norbizness, what are you going to do about it? I mean, if the People aren't behind it, how long can goodhair keep it up? Switch his Viagra for a placebo? I'll bet you can get some fake Viagra off the internet, judging from all the offers that are floating around.

And yes, I should talk, being from Cali for ni ay and all. But hey, thanks to your boys in Houston, we've got the biggest state deficit of all, so I'm thinkin you owe us something. ;-)

I'll bet, if you all can beat the redistricting, we all can beat the recall. Whaddya say?

Posted by: Duckman GR at July 28, 2003 09:14 PM | PERMALINK

Dang, you all have interesting politics in the south and west.

I have to wonder, though--here in NY we're not very much better.

Which is the state that is doing well and needs no assistance?

Posted by: Thersites at July 28, 2003 09:35 PM | PERMALINK

Duckman: What am I going to do about it? It's too hot to do anything about anything!

I propose a counter-offer: Elect Michael Huffington and I'll give you a Hickory Farms gift basket and a Honda gas generator for your next round of brownouts.

Posted by: Norbizness at July 28, 2003 10:19 PM | PERMALINK

Which is the state that is doing well and needs no assistance?

I gather that Vermont is doing okay.

Posted by: FHC at July 28, 2003 10:58 PM | PERMALINK

Sebastian brings up a good point.

Frankly, I don't think most of us think too deeply about what's really the best way for a government to run -- we just see what's happening in a particular case, notice what we think is right and wrong with it, and then take a stand.

Because we don't think too deeply about the full implications of that stand (most of us, including me, aren't really in a position to do so), we almost inevitably contradict ourselves.

I have to be honest -- I don't know to what extent and in what situations requiring a supermajority rather than a simple majority is likely to lead to good governance.

What I will stand by is this:

a. I have seen no one, on either side, defend the current California constitution with much enthusiasm, and Fareed Zacharia spends considerable time complaining about it in _The Future of Freedom_ -- to convincing effect.

b. Unilaterally changing informal rules as Dewhurst is proposing to do necessarily weakens the trust that is required for good governance.

I don't know enough about the situation in Texas to assign blame for this, but it's clearly an unfortunate move for all concerned, to be lamented.

Good luck, Texans.

Posted by: Brandonimac at July 29, 2003 05:22 AM | PERMALINK

Uh, Norbiz, I'll have to pass on your generous counter offer. Until bill simple simon came along, I thought that huffinpuff was the most pathetic campaigner since... I can't think of anyone more lame off the top of my head, but you know what I mean.

Perhaps you all can cut goodhair's (love that handle) A/C? There's no way that thuglican could stand the heat (let alone his coiffure), since that requires some sort of moral integrity, and clearly, since he is delay's bitch, he has none. Maybe some more of those signs, and on TV, could help too?

What are we going to do here? Hell if I know, but it would be nice if we do it sooner, and do it convincingly so we don't need to waste our time and money responding to master rove's blueprint. It would be nice to take it to that prig for a change, wouldn't it?

I'm thinking of an appropriate wager, like if you guys win, and we lose, i.e. a thuglican governor, I'll send a donation to the TX Dem of your choice, and vice a versa? And if we both win, then we both contribute to some national effort, or if we both lose, f it, we got our own problems to deal with!

Love that guy's sign! Could you imagine, "michael huffington is Ariana Huffington's bitch!" lol

Posted by: Duckman GR at July 29, 2003 10:16 AM | PERMALINK

When the going gets tough....

Posted by: Ricky at July 29, 2003 12:10 PM | PERMALINK

...the tough resort to stupid slogans that are completely meaningless in this context? Is that what you were going to say?

Posted by: PaulB at July 30, 2003 09:24 AM | PERMALINK

Norb,

"If it's any consolation, Texans as a whole don't support this repeating string of asinine, never-ending, Tom Delay-ego-stroking, special sessions."

How come Texans keep electing these national embarassments? I don't get it. You think they'd be ashamed.

Of course what do us Yankee's know anyway.

Posted by: Jimbo2K3 at July 30, 2003 09:32 AM | PERMALINK

BTW, in a related vein, the Nevada Supreme Court recently set aside the 2/3 vote on taxes requirement OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION. Wow.

Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw at July 30, 2003 02:08 PM | PERMALINK

from the Houston Chronicle:

"Standing in front of a Texas flag, Van de Putte said more than 1.4 million minorities in her state would lose effective congressional representation if the Republicans redistrict according to their wishes."

Now that statement is really really funny. It is also totally ignorant. And it is blatantly racist. If this person flees to New Mexico and stays there, everyone in the state of Texas should celebrate.

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