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July 28, 2003

RECALL ROUNDUP....For California readers, here's the latest on the recall:

  • Justene Adamec links to California Insider, who reports that Arnold is definitely not running.

  • A New York Times op-ed (and why do I have to read the New York Times to find this out?) points out something interesting. There are two questions on the recall ballot:

    First, do you want to recall Governor Davis? Second, assuming a majority of voters support the recall, whom do you want elected in his place?

    By law, only voters who answer the first question can have their vote for a candidate in the recall election counted. Those who would prefer not to vote on the merits of the recall face a dilemma: they must either vote on the first question against their will, or forgo their chance to vote for a candidate.

    The authors suggest that this is unconstitutional, something that I'll have to defer to Eugene Volokh about, I suppose, but it does seem odd, doesn't it? In any case, it's good to know.

  • On a lighter note, New York Times reporter Charlie LeDuff went the extra mile and tried to contact Californians who happened to be named Gray Davis and Bill Simon to find out if they were planning to run:

    Consider this possibility: If voters choose to remove Mr. Davis, the second question on the ballot asks for his replacement. Governor Davis may not appear on that part of the ballot, by virtue of the state Constitution.

    But this does not prevent Gray Davis — not the governor, but a private citizen from Contra Costa County — from doing so. He could, by advantage of his shared name with the Democratic incumbent and the mass confusion his candidacy would cause, find himself the governor-elect on Oct. 8. Mr. Davis, the citizen, was away on business and could not be reached for comment on any political aspirations.

    Bill Simon, the corporate recruiter from central Los Angeles and a Democrat, could pull votes away from Mr. Simon, the Republican millionaire from west Los Angeles who was the loser in the last race for governor, through simple slight of name. Not that he would. He does not support the recall effort.

    "I may or may not be a huge fan of Gray Davis, but that's not the point," says Mr. Simon, a Democrat who worked as deputy staff secretary to President Jimmy Carter. "Six months from now, does someone go out and spend another million to throw this election out? That's not how the Republic was built."

    Now that's good journalism.

Next up: with Arnold out, will Richard Riordan run?

Or how about me? All I need is either (a) 100 people to chip in $35 apiece or (b) 100 people to collect 150 signatures apiece. But before anybody gets started on this, my first order of business to to change my name to Arnold Schwarzenegger....

Posted by Kevin Drum at July 28, 2003 02:58 PM | TrackBack


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my first order of business to to change my name to Arnold Schwarzenegger....

Dude, if you're going to change your name, why not go for broke.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the next Gov. of California:
John F. Kennedy.

Posted by: WillieStyle at July 28, 2003 03:23 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin,

Put up the donation box, and start designing G-strings and boxers, you're my choice.

Posted by: Kombiz at July 28, 2003 03:33 PM | PERMALINK

Or Ronald Wilson Reagan (oh, wait, he's still alive, isn't he?) or George Murphy or Sonny Bono or...

Posted by: Linkmeister at July 28, 2003 03:34 PM | PERMALINK

This could get interesting.

So how many college kids are going to throw their hat in the ring on a whim? You know, use mum's Visa card for that "emergency" and get their drinking buddies to sign on.

Hey, this could be a screenplay! I'm thinking Adam Sandler in the lead.

Posted by: dasboat at July 28, 2003 03:38 PM | PERMALINK

Didn't the Republicans run a "Richard Gephardt" against Dick Gephardt in a previous election?

Posted by: PaulB at July 28, 2003 03:43 PM | PERMALINK

I know it is impolite to point out, but it is Richard Riordan (Dick to his friends, I suppose), not Bill. I am sure it was just a slip of the, er, keyboard.

Posted by: Paul Orwin at July 28, 2003 03:58 PM | PERMALINK

I was thinking about gathering up the cash to run, I hit up my friends and family (got offers of signatures, no cash yet).

That's because my name is Adam Sandler. I figured it's a recognizable name. Maybe I could get the actor to star in a tv commercial: "Vote Adam Sandler for Governor!"

I need a blog with a tip jar :\

Posted by: Adam at July 28, 2003 04:13 PM | PERMALINK

"Gray" Davis' real name is Joe Davis Jr. Whether another Joe Davis could claim that his nickname is "Gray" and run as Joe "Gray" Davis or even Gray Davis is something I don't know.

I have a list of the possible cadidates here. No, Abe Vigoda isn't running, that's just a joke on my part.

You don't have to read the NYT to find things out. Other possibilities are, say, the Internet, or listening to the John and Ken Show.

Ken Layne is trying to get a guy from Modesto to run, see his blog or laexaminer.com

Posted by: Lonewacko at July 28, 2003 04:18 PM | PERMALINK

Maybe the other Joe Davis could run as Joe "Mama" Davis. It would fool no one, but it would spice things up a bit.

As to Schwarzenegger's (non)candidacy, a newer California Insider story has Schwarzenegger's campaign insisting that he hasn't made up his mind yet.

Posted by: Xrlq at July 28, 2003 04:25 PM | PERMALINK

Gray Davis has always appeared on the ballot as Gray Davis, not as Joe "Gray" Davis.

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I can not imagine why anyone would want to be the Governor of California. I mean, California is a nice place to visit...

Posted by: M. L. Foster at July 28, 2003 04:37 PM | PERMALINK

There was a minor scandal a few years ago here in the UK when a joker run on the "Literal Democrat Party" ticket. He didn't win, but he did get several thousand votes that denied the LiBeral Democrat Party candidate the election.

What are the rules on donations? If it's the same as the national election, I'm not allowed to donate, but if it isn't, I would kick in 20 bucks.

Posted by: Keith at July 28, 2003 04:39 PM | PERMALINK

I'm running as "Grey" Davis. Do you think anyone will notice?

Posted by: GFW at July 28, 2003 04:49 PM | PERMALINK

Kevin, you'd better start lifting weights now. People are going to expect something for their money besides brians if you're going to call yourself Schwarzenegger.

JUST put the kitties on your campaign posters--Inkblot and Jasmine will bring home the votes.

Posted by: Cheryl at July 28, 2003 05:06 PM | PERMALINK

Paul: right you are. Thanks for the correction.

Bill is Richard's brother. He was the guy who ran a major tennis tour in the early 70s that featured Jimmy Connors. I keep getting them mixed up since I'm a big tennis fan from way back.

Posted by: Kevin Drum at July 28, 2003 05:07 PM | PERMALINK

I remember a similar stunt in Illinois, where "Jessie L. Jackson Jr." ran opposite "Jessie L. Jackson Jr." One is the son of the civil rights figure; the other had the exact same name.

Shenanigans, all around.

Posted by: squiddy at July 28, 2003 07:08 PM | PERMALINK

Is that JFK, Jr., on top? Or the dad?

By the way, if it's gonna turn into a Constitutional issue, I guess we get to see Rehnquist at his brilliant self, again.

California (the state that once pulled the economy) is being flushed down the toilet.

My electric bill just jumped $150 ABOVE what it was last month! You don't smell Enron, here?

Grey Davis' biggest defect is that he's a coward. But he's also a politician, and so he knows how to do one dance well. He knows how to wear a clean suit, brush his teeth daily, and act like a politician who is running for election.

Whatever happens, I expect chaos.

And, I don't see this as a victory for the republicans. Because Davis WAS REALLY ELECTED! You mean less than a million unhappy republicans, who can't stand this fact, can do a recall?

Without repercussions?

My guess is IF Davis is 'recalled' ... that yes eliminating 'choice' from all those voters who still want him, will become an issue. Does it mean you can only vote for one candidate? So, those who vote NOT to recall, are in fact voting for a man already in office?

One month later there's another election. Will the courts throw the problem into November?

Or will Bush think he's won another round the old fashioned way. Not by popular support, but because his daddy's pals are very powerful? Just asking.

Can't imagine this helps the republicans over time. It's just another election mess, ahead.

Oh, and how will the ballot look? If I pick to keep Davis, is this like the butterfly stuff and chad, down in Florida? In other words, if the ballot gets marked with another name chosen will my ballot be eliminated? Well?

How many "FOF" votes for Davis can you throw out and still see this coming down the pike as a great victory for republicans.

As to Schwartzenegger, didn't his summer release just tank? A Terminator movie that lost money is up there with Bedtime for Bonzo. (But Reagan was all Teflon before the Alzheimer's kicked in. He kept practicing on how to lose brain cells, I guess. Though this is a rotten thing to say.)

Posted by: Carol Herman at July 28, 2003 10:34 PM | PERMALINK

I am in favor of you running. I think McClintock should get it even though he's more conservative than most of the state (and probably more conservative than I am) because he can do the numbers. I think the same way about you even though you're less conservative than I like. You understand the budget numbers. Whoever gets it won't have time to manage anythig else but the fiscal situation.

Posted by: Justene at July 29, 2003 12:54 AM | PERMALINK

Rumor mill here in DC has Maria Shriver putting her foot down on Arnold's governor bid, but that the consideration is giving Arnold enough gravitas and credibility for him to come here and go after Jack Valenti's job.

Posted by: Andy at July 29, 2003 08:19 AM | PERMALINK

McClintock? Are you saying he's fiscally responsible or something? Yeah, sure. He never met a freeway boondoggle he didn't like. It's like Bush's tax cuts, a panacea for all occasions. Build more freeways! It's for the chilldrun! The CHIIIILDRUNS!

Fortunately, not all of us want the rest of California to look like LA - completely paved under, freeways everywhere, and horrible congestion all day and night.

Posted by: squiddy at July 29, 2003 08:40 AM | PERMALINK

A run for governor would be merely a springboard to the Presidency for you, Kevin. I call dibs on Secretary of Transportation.

Posted by: Seth at July 29, 2003 09:06 AM | PERMALINK

Carol - Less than a million unhappy republicans could do a recall, but they didn't; 1.6 million people, approximately 20% of the number who voted in the 2002 general election, signed the petition.

The ballot will have two questions: (a) should Davis be recalled?; (b) if Davis is recalled, which of the following people should replace him?

Posted by: aphrael at July 29, 2003 09:10 AM | PERMALINK

my question is, as a recent California resident who has moved semi-permanently to New York City, with California parents currently on an extended holiday in Thailand (two months), is there going to be an absentee ballot for those of residents who want to stick it to the recall attempt but won't actually be in the State at the time?

Posted by: Loki at July 29, 2003 10:50 AM | PERMALINK

I had the same thought a few days ago, but suggested that someone should change their name to 'Aarnold Schwarzenegger' just to assure that they end up ahead of him on the ballot paper (I assume it'll be ordered alphabetically).

Given the number of candidates that seem to be planning to stand in this election, I'd expect those towards the top of the ballot paper to have an advantage. If it's a huge ballot, then how many people are going to take the time to look right down it? IMHO, most are going to just go for the first name they see that they've heard of and don't actively dislike. Governor Aaron Aardvark?

Posted by: Nick at July 29, 2003 03:58 PM | PERMALINK

It isn't true that Gray Davis's "real" name is "Joe Davis, Jr." His full legal name is Joseph Graydon Davis, of which forenames "Gray" is quite as legitimate an abbreviation as "Joe", particularly as he's never used the name Joe. (That was his father's name.)

Anyone who thinks politicians are committing some sort of fraud by using their middle names ought to start by complaining about Thomas Woodrow Wilson, John Calvin Coolidge, James Strom Thurmond, and a host of others.

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