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July 27, 2003

ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY....I've been emailing with Tom Maguire quite a bit over the Valerie Plame affair, and he's made the point to me that perhaps the media isn't really very excited about looking into the whole thing. After all, what's in it for them to track down a leaker in the White House?

The media prefers its sources to feel chatty and expansive. If one consequence of the sort of investigation that would resolve this is a silent White House, journalists, at least collectively, may prefer to let this go.

I told him I didn't think much of this, figuring that the thrill of breaking a good story was more than enough compensation for the temporary chilling effect it might have on off-the-record sources.

Yesterday, however, Mark Kleiman, who's also been following this story closely, edged toward agreeing with Tom:

I hate to endorse the MinuteMan's cynical assertion that the story won't be covered because the people who should be covering it are too busy sucking up to their sources and don't want to help stir up a leak hunt when they rely on leaks for their livelihood, but that explanation is looking better every day the Times and the Post act as if this story wasn't there.

Since Josh Marshall is part of the DC journalism community, I think it's time for him to weigh in with an opinion. My theory is that getting a good story pretty much trumps any other concern, and the relative silence on this one has simply been because no one has managed to track anything down. But it's been the better part of two weeks now, and it does seem a bit peculiar that the combined forces of American journalism haven't been able to come up with anything. How about it, Josh?

Posted by Kevin Drum at July 27, 2003 10:54 AM | TrackBack


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Or maybe, they're afraid that there won't be much of a story once they start looking into it.

Posted by: Justene at July 27, 2003 11:06 AM | PERMALINK

Sorry Justene. There is a story here--and it's about outing CIA agents.

If Sid Blumenthal did this, there would have been a story already and it would have been added to the impeachment counts.

Clinton didn't punish reporters the way the Bush/Rove/Cheney axis does.

Sometimes it's just that simple.

Posted by: mitchell freedman at July 27, 2003 11:15 AM | PERMALINK

Or sometimes, you hope it is.

Posted by: Justene at July 27, 2003 11:16 AM | PERMALINK

I think It'd be nigh on impossible for the press to track down the leaker themselves. That would require another leak from someone in the know (or torturing Novak into submission).

If a reporter could somehow nail the source, I wouldn't
doubt that they'd do it in a heartbeat. But merely drawing enough attention to spur an investigation (which Schumer is already calling for) wouldn't be "breaking" the story.

I also can't remember it being established that the leaker is in the White House.

Posted by: Sven at July 27, 2003 11:36 AM | PERMALINK

And here I was thinking that it was their obligation to look into this story since the ramifications are so serious. But they're afraid of losing their leaks? So, they're okay with being good patsies when it comes to muscling dissenters into line, but not for doing any real work? I'm with John Stewart; they can't lose access that they don't have. The way this story has been ignored is shameful and says all you need to know about the WH press corps and mainstream journalism in this country.

Posted by: casadelogo at July 27, 2003 11:42 AM | PERMALINK

I don't get the argument here.

There must be all kinds of potential sources who have already been outraged at the suddenly uncooperative coverage the WH has been receiving at the hands of a finally inquisitive press.

Why should the Plame affair cause more avoidant behavior in the media than, say, the 16 words?

I'm guessing the press looked into it and ran into a brick wall -- or stonewall to be more exact.

Posted by: frankly0 at July 27, 2003 12:14 PM | PERMALINK

Well, David Johnson of the NY Times got several sources to discuss the still classified Saudi section of the 9/11 report with him, so we are still getting "good" leaks that may (or may not) affect national security. Presumably we do not want Ashcroft to investigate those.

As to the (my? OK, my!) media "cone of silence" theory, I did say "journalists, at least collectively" for a reason - I happen to agree with Kevin, and said so in some earlier post, that individually, the pull of a Pulitzer should be strong. Still, if your editor is pushing you to work some other story...

I also have a theory about Josh Marshall, whose silence on this has been notable. I will save that.

Finally, and I say this in the spirit of shameless self-promotion, I have posted contact info for people who might like to hear an expression of your concern. Reporters, Senators, ths usual suspects.

Posted by: Tom Maguire at July 27, 2003 01:45 PM | PERMALINK

Justene--
So far, we know--KNOW--that an undercover CIA agent was outed in the press. This passes what I call the Joe Lelyveld test (see his NYRB exchange with Blumenthal)--it's worth a story even if it's not certain that any criminal conduct took place.

(Or, short version: That didn't stop them from blanket-covering Whitewater, did it?)

Posted by: Matt Weiner at July 27, 2003 02:43 PM | PERMALINK

Poodle press? The poodle press be damned! They've no subpoena power.

Where is congress?

Posted by: Jim Shiloh at July 27, 2003 03:30 PM | PERMALINK


I figure they'd be more likely to avoid antagonizing sources who are career employees of the various agencies.

Losing access to a political appointee at the White House wouldn't be as damaging as losing access to a CIA analyst or career diplomat. In a few years, the political appointee, and all her friends, might be gone and working in the bowels of a think tank.

I'd think the press would be interested in pursuing the White House leaker, in order to maintain access to other leaks. After all, the White House was clearly trying to get people to shut up.

From the point of view of the journalists, in terms of maintaining access, it might be better for them to nail the intimidation leaker, thus helping others feel free to leak.

Posted by: Jon H at July 27, 2003 03:52 PM | PERMALINK

And speaking of a press poodle, does anyone think that Robert Novak would have rushed to the defense of a non-poodle journalist who acquieced in blowing the cover of a CIA operative?

Where is Congress?

Posted by: Jim Lynch at July 27, 2003 04:05 PM | PERMALINK

?There are enough yellow dog journalists who will chase this story.

This story went from Novak to Nation, Time Magazine, DeanforAmerica, Newsday, New York Times, Guardian then across the country with “Schumer Wants Probe.”

It’s absolutely astonishing in this day and age that we haven’t had a sighting of the female lead. The media for once is showing restraint.

It’s conceivable there is a second security breach in this story. What if Mrs. Palme-Wilson’s husband was a source for journalists in the write up of intelligence evidence gathered and the discontent among operatives at Langley.

Retired Ambassador Joseph Wilson missed an opportunity to stifle this story early on, he could have let it slip under the radar. A leak hunt could derail more than a White House aide caught passing on office scuttlebutt to Novak.

Posted by: pshaw at July 27, 2003 06:29 PM | PERMALINK

Re: Pshaw's comment What if Mrs. Palme-Wilson’s husband was a source for journalists in the write up of intelligence evidence gathered and the discontent among operatives at Langley.

the intelligence might be an issue...but you've got to be heck of a lot more specific to get any traction. If you are suggesting that he is the source for all intelligence leaks from the CIA, that defies credulity...if you are suggesting that he may be responsible for some...you are suggesting that we go on a fishing expedition to further smear Wilson(which I think your "plame-wilson's husband" comment is intended to do).
As for anycomments about discontent at Langley...why the hell is that a state secret?!

Posted by: Sam Jackson at July 27, 2003 07:07 PM | PERMALINK

Leaking the fact that Wilson's wife is a CIA operative was part of a plan to smear Wilson. Has that happened?

When Wilson was on NOW with Bill Moyers he alluded to looking into the legal side of that. While the press may allow it to go away it could be that Wilson himself might take some kind of action. I hope he does.

Posted by: M. L. Foster at July 28, 2003 08:45 AM | PERMALINK

I treat media conspiracy theories as weaker versions of the 'health care companies have a cure for AIDS but won't release it because they depend on spending for long term therapies' theories.

One of the underappreciated facets of fairly free market system is that it does quite a bit to undercut secrecy. Even if the health care industry as a whole would profit in the continuation of long term treatments on AIDS, any individual scientist or any individual company which discovered a cure would have a much larger profit/pride motivation to go public with the cure.

Same is true with reporters. Even if it would be bad for the industry as a whole, the rewards for an individual reporter or newspaper more than outweigh such considerations for that particular entity.

Posted by: Sebastian Holsclaw at July 28, 2003 09:18 AM | PERMALINK

As I recall, your publication submits your work for the Pulitzer. If it's an article your editor didn't want you to chase in the first place, how's that going to happen?

As to the pharmaceutical companies having the secret cure for AIDS: First I'd have to believe they were still doing original research, instead of cannibalizing NIH's work. It seems unlikely that NIH has been keeping the cure a secret. (This isn't a mere Pulitzer we're talking about, it's a Nobel!)

Posted by: Avedon at July 29, 2003 12:48 PM | PERMALINK

This is a real story. Who in the Bush White House leaked it, who ordered it and what the consequences to Wilson's family and the operation and the operatives involved is not yet published and indeed the consequences is still reverberating around the world. Novak is either one of the administrations channels for outing leaks for them, or he was used as an unwitting go between. Joseph Wilson is having to be very careful about what he says and is currently pursuing a law suit. He may be able to get standing in court, but Mr. "Ashcraft" is fighting with all the resources used to get the recount in Florida thrown out.

Posted by: Diagenes at September 10, 2003 03:11 AM | PERMALINK

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Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2003 03:14 AM | PERMALINK

....Do a Google search on Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, IV.

You will be able to find his CV/Bio in several listings...THE Middle East Institute,
THE Corporate & Public Strategy Advisory Group, The EPIC Group, are among several more.
In all of them His wife Valerie Plame is identified.
The listing below is a MONTH before the Robert Novak Leak BS.

What do you make of it all?

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