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May 13, 2003

JOURNALISM 101....Two interesting posts from Matt Welch today. First, he tells us that several visiting journalists were sent back home from LAX because they didn't have "journalist visas." Huh? We're so afraid of reporters here that we require them to have special visas?

And he's got a suggestion for the New York Times: have reporters send copies of their stories to everyone quoted in the story. This doesn't make sense in all cases (for example, national news stories where your sources are all going to see it anyway), but it does seem like a pretty good idea on at least a spot check basis, especially for local news stories.

Posted by Kevin Drum at May 13, 2003 06:01 PM | TrackBack


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Kevin:

It is true that foreign journalists are required to get journalist visas in order to cover stories in the United States. This is not some attempt to control foreign media access, but a matter of being practical.

By obtaining journalist visas, journalists can stay as long as their media outlets require, without worrying about expiring visas and such.

At the same time, their visas are issued by the state department through their embassies in which the journalist comes from. Going through the state department is much faster, than, say, going through INS, which can takes months, instead of days with the embassy.

People who are making commercial film and such, are required to get temporary work visas to work in the United States. JOurnalists do not.

Posted by: Niraj at May 13, 2003 06:14 PM | PERMALINK

I don't think I've ever been quoted correctly in any publication. Worst was an article in Entrepeneur that contained nothing of what I actually said, but had my name next to quotation marks everywhere. Ugh.

Posted by: taktile at May 13, 2003 06:43 PM | PERMALINK

I second taktile's comment. Indeed, I've provided TEXT responses via e-mails to local journalists and had the quote 180 degrees out from what I actually said.

My major prof in grad school, himself briefly a journalist, noted that, to most reporters, an "expert" is anyone who knows a little more about a subject than they do. Aside from beat reporters on major papers, who tend to have genuine expertise, this is about right.

Posted by: James Joyner at May 13, 2003 07:01 PM | PERMALINK

Fuck you all.

Um. Did I just say that aloud? Sorry.

What I meant to say was that there's been righteous indignation that Blair has bewrongly been fingered as the poster boy dfor all that's wrong with Affirmative Action.

Wrongly on the clear assumption that the individual is rarely indicative of the whole group.

The I see posts here from idiots who are willing to take their experiences with journalists and paint the whole group with the same brush.

You all are fools. Of course reporters make effing mistakes. Who on their !#@#$% job doesn't? Answer. No-thefuck-one.

That so many people care when a reporter makes a mistake does my heart good 'cause I is one. People care that we get it right. Thank you.

So do we.

I guess as a journalist here for this one breief moment in time I classify as a minority. If no one stood up for me - my profession would be royally screwed.

Some reporters are just like other people in other professions - idiots. It's just that their mistakes are more visible and - thankfully - are under more scrutiny. Their mistakes can be life-changing for the people hurt by them.

Where the hell were you when the Fairness Doctrine was getting shit-canned. That's what really damaged the industry.

Why do you care whether a journalist makes a mistake? It doesn't effect you, right?

And so you can hear the other side on quotes. I have found that when somebody sees what they actually said in print they always think they could have said it better, That can and often does translate into, "I did say it better and the bastard reporter misquoted me."

I always get deep personal satisfaction when I play back a tape for a person who feels they get misquoted - if they accept the offer - and they hear - SHOCK - word for word what they actually said.

The satisfaction comes not in my being right - I knew I already was. It comes in letting somebody else know that, while just seconds earlier they felt they were part of the public that had a reason to hate "the media" they may look harder at claims from others that they have been wronged.

And guess what? A lot of people who should know better, not just people who've never been interviewed before, say things like this:

"Don't make me sound stupid."
"You'll clean that up, won't you?"
"You're not going to print that are you?"


Of course what they really said was
"Don'y you know, um, um, um make me sound stupid."
"You'll clean that shit up, er, um, won't you?
"Like, you're not, you know, um, going to print that, um are you?"


I've yet to receive a call that takes me to task for removing the detris in a quote. If they've said notihing quotable reporters later paraphrase or they ask the questions again to get a, not better, but a slightly eloquent answer.

However, most of the time the mysterious art of the interview goes like this: people get quoted, the sky does not fall in, life goes on, the public is informed.

Remember that next time you try and generalize. Whe it goes right, you don't hear shit about it. Remember that.

Sorry about the profanity. It gets cut out of articles and most quotes too.

Also I'll assume Matt Welch meant send copies after the story is published.

Posted by: Andrew | BYTE BACK at May 13, 2003 07:52 PM | PERMALINK

Thanks, Kevin! As Warren Celli commented on my site, new journalist-visa guidelines were introduced one month ago by the State Department(http://travel.state.gov/ireval.html). I'm going to poke around a bit and find out more. And yes, Andrew, I was talking about post-publication.

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